Originally Posted By Moon Waffle Screamscape has posted an image someone sent in of ten or so items for future changes at DCA. Could be pure rumor, but hey, it's still fun to look at. Thoughts? <a href="http://www.screamscape.com/html/dca_-_2010_0.htm" target="_blank">http://www.screamscape.com/htm l/dca_-_2010_0.htm</a>
Originally Posted By Indigo Carland looks like a step in the right direction, but the park is going to take more work than just adding a 'pixar' overlay to it. Is the new theme to be 'Disney-Pixar Studios West'? -Indigo <a href="http://www.thedisneyblog.com" target="_blank">http://www.thedisneyblog.com</a>
Originally Posted By plpeters70 What a mixed-up mess of a park that is! One half is Pixar with some carnival rides thrown in, and the rest is California with a lot of character attractions. The only area that will still reflect the real California will be Grizzly Peak. If true, I can't say I'm very hopeful for DCA's future. Of course, I'm sure I'm in the minority -- everyone else seems to really like character rides everywhere...
Originally Posted By Elderp Call me crazy but I wouldn't mind some animatronic rangers and possibly a bear or two on Grizzly River run. It would be like you caught up with the people from the base station you just left.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Carland looks like a step in the right direction, but the park is going to take more work than just adding a 'pixar' overlay to it. Is the new theme to be 'Disney-Pixar Studios West'?>> LOL seriously! The scary part is I can see ALL that happening. Toy Story is already being put in, CARS is suppose to be next, they add the Crush Coaster and the Toy Story Para chut thing to PP, which are minor additions/changes anyway, really, why NOT just change the freaking title of the park alreay?? It's starting to become a no brainer at the rate this park is going. There has not been ONE single addition that has anything to do with CALIFORNIA!!!!!! Not one. They all been fantasy/character stuff and PIXAR!!! "California Adventure" is starting to feel like false advertising at the rate they are going. I'm not even joking at this point, but if they remake the entrance into Pixar inspired, rename the Pier like it was rumored into a Pixar theme and HPB is all character and Pixar stuff now as it is, it might as well just be "Pixar and friends" and be done. The only true sore thumb will be the GRR area, but I'm sure in time Pixar will create some film based on the outdoors and that problem will be solved in a few years time anyway .
Originally Posted By Sweeper DCA's #1 problem identified by guest surveys was the lack of anything Disney in it. So that is why Pixar, which is Disney, is being added everywhere. Carland, in that drawing, looks like a different location than I thought. I understood it was going in th parking lot next to FFF and TOT and connecting to the entire farm area. The only thing I don't like about the plan as shown on the image is the fact that there is NO San Francisco expansion as talked about in the past.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^Well, that's because there is nothing Pixar related in San Francisco Sweeper . I agree with you. Yeah, this park SUCKED when it opened, there was nothing character base and fantasy that the majority of its fans thought it would be, but the morons who built that park managed to completely overlook that and why a scant 6 months later FFF was built (the beginning of the Pixar influence). All I'm saying is make up your minds!!! Is it still a park about the history, culture and spirit about California or is it a park that is designed to promote Pixar movies?? Obviously, there isn't one single attraction since opening past, present or future that is about California, so why bother keeping it as California?? Cars DO have a chance to actually tie the theme of Calif with the movie obviously, but the rest is just shoehorning Pixar stuff in a place that never called for it.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I don't see this as being a DCA problem. The character overlays are happening all over the Disney theme park universe. When was the last time Disneyland build a non-character based attraction that was appropriately themed? What do Nemo or Pooh have to do with the themes of the areas in which they were built?
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^C'mon, seriously! These morons went out of their way with DCA to have NO character or fantasy elememts in 90% of the park minus a few movies and the Animation studio. The rest are dull and static very contempoary themes and places. Again, you would THINK after they learned their lesson with Epcot when they tried that approach in the early 80's (of course, Epcot was only the third Disney theme park at the time and the first non-MK park, not the 8th that DCA is), they would've left more room/idea's in the park in general for fantasy orientated area's so it wouldn't look so out of place/shoehorned in everywhere. Yeah, they are doing character overlays in other places, but it's easier to put those characters in other appropriate area's of the parks. Not all the time, but enough. With DCA, the fact they themed park to a state and boring at that (excution wise), I agree 100% this park NEEDS fantasy, but it's being bought out of a place that screams 'here and now' the second you walk in that pathetic entrance and confuses what the park is suppose to represent. The fact it has this lopsided overflow of Pixar influences all over the place while trying to still tell us this is about the spirit of California is laughable. Again, call it Pixar Adventures and be done. Once again, just underlying one of the MANY problems with this place.
Originally Posted By BigJim89 I for one doubt that Crush's coaster will even be built. After reading the ride description I think it would be far to similar To Submarine voyage since it would use not only the same characters but also identical effects(Bruce Scene, Anamatronic "Mine" Seagulls in que , entire dark ride portion). Then again there are apparent similarities between BLAB and Toy Story Mania.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt WD, let's not argue about DCA again, please? I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that Buzz Lightyear has nothing at all to do with Walt Disney's vision of A Living Blueprint of Our Future. And if you have no issues with that, then please explain the new Monster's themed comedy club at WDW's Tomorrowland.
Originally Posted By planodisney Or the Monsters attraction popping up in the future of his beloeved TDL, and in tomorrowland no less. But lets not talk about that right now, right WDW.
Originally Posted By markymouse I think you're right BigJim. Building the Crush coaster a few hundred feet from the same effects and scenes just wouldn't happen. The inclusion of the Crush coaster makes me want to discredit this whole map. I rather suspect somebody unrelated to Disney just got creative trying to map a few attractions at other parks people could imagine coming to DCA (Crush coaster), plus rumors (the major Cars attraction) plus the changes needed to facilitate viewing the water show. Interesting, but I doubt it's remotely authoritative.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "I for one doubt that Crush's coaster will even be built. After reading the ride description I think it would be far to similar To Submarine voyage since it would use not only the same characters but also identical effects(Bruce Scene, Anamatronic "Mine" Seagulls in que , entire dark ride portion). Then again there are apparent similarities between BLAB and Toy Story Mania." I agree, they would be too similar. Unlike Midway Mania, and Buzz, they are themed differently. Crush and the Submarines would have identical scenes in spots. So...I doubt it. Also, Carland is supposed to be like the more realistic Route 66, so I'm sure there will be some California themeing there.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>...Walt Disney's vision of A Living Blueprint of Our Future.<< While Walt did, indeed, describe Tomorrowland as "a living blueprint of our future," he was not averse to including fantasy elements. In 1955 TL opened with a major exhibit devoted to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. The submarine voyage of 1959 included mermaids and a cross-eyed sea serpent. Before he died, Walt approved TL '67, which included an attraction that shrunk guests down to the size of an atom.
Originally Posted By disneysnout WOW what a freaking Mess...serioulsy...California is a great theme the Disney cant seem to Do anything with. What a shame, you cant do Califronia Showcase, with China Town, a good ride along, something but more pixar? They might as well change the name of the park already.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't know about that map. Isn't Midway Mania in the wrong place? It looks on the map like it's completely behind every part of Screamin', whereas in reality it's being built farther north, rather close to Triton's carousel, no?
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<WD, let's not argue about DCA again, please? I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that Buzz Lightyear has nothing at all to do with Walt Disney's vision of A Living Blueprint of Our Future. And if you have no issues with that, then please explain the new Monster's themed comedy club at WDW's Tomorrowland.>> First of all, I don't even KNOW what the Monster's theme comedy club is lol. But, that sounds pretty bad . Yes, I agree, I don't LIKE the fact that TL is being PIXARED up anymore than DCA. The TL theme is nothing close to what it was in the 60's, but I think with that area they learned long ago 50 years later it's too hard to predict what the future will look like when in 10 years the land will just look (ironically) outdated and cheesy. That's why the people who built HKDL were smart to make TL more of a space port in space and not set it on Earth circa 2029. Yes, I agree, that stuff is just as bad, but DL has been mainly fantasy orientated first, so it's easier to those things with that park. But with DCA, it ISN'T THAT HARD!! The park is about CALIFORNIA!!!! It actually lives in the stupid state, but they can't find ONE idea that can tell a story about the place it's theme to? That's what *I* don't get! They abandon the theme from the FIRST year on. Seriously, if you can't be creative enough to come up with a show or attraction that doesn't involve Woody or Nemo for the next ten years without using any creativity talking about California, then why bother keeping that name?? NO ONE cares if they change the theme of the place anyway and since they apparently forgotten what it was suppose to be about, just start from scratch with a new theme. It would make it soooo much easier on them obviously.
