Originally Posted By Kathi K Darkbeer, I saw your pic of the security sign. Can you tell us what changes there have been?
Originally Posted By fkurucz What could they really do? They would have to install Airport type screening, and that's not going to happen. And even if they did, all it would take would be a crop duster loaded with something really nasty.
Originally Posted By ploeb909 Well while I was there on the 2nd with my family-I saw the same sighn at the parking entrance of the hotel. When we went to register at the desk we had to fill out a plain piece of paper the had everyones name and age on it. If soneone arrived after we had to show ID first. I asked why we needed to do this and I was told incase there was a fire they wanted to be able to account for everyone.
Originally Posted By dlkozy IMHO, DLR could use some beefing up on their security. I always shake my head at the bag checks-what an utter waste of time. I carry a big purse for everyone's "Mom can you put this in your purse for me" things-and they barely glance into it. What a utter waste of time. I would be more comfortable if they at LEAST had a walk through metal detector!
Originally Posted By dresswhites i agree disneyland security seems quaint. I don't know what they would do to improve it. Metal detectors just don't seem to be very good show. maybe necessary, but i don't know the idea of going through metal detectors and airport type screening would just seem odd.
Originally Posted By englishboy My impressions of disneyland security: OK, if you have a gun in your cargo shorts, pass right on through. No need to stop. But if you have a bag, can you set it on this table and quickly show me if the zipper works to open and close its compartments. Thanks!
Originally Posted By velo we just got back tonight. I definitely think that they've upped their "search" procedures in the ticket plaza. I've never had to open all my compartments of my "fanny-pack" (including those that only are big enough to hold the credit cards. We really noticed the extra attention to everyone passing thru security.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder One thing- not that I have any specific inside info on this presently but I did once after 9/11, never underestimate the security you don't see. Ever.
Originally Posted By PirateJohn Seriously, the people who search the bags at the gate don't even know what they're looking for. I have a friend who is a security consultant who started testing their security once, and was able to get so many things through the gate that it stopped being a challenge. So he decided to put a magazine at the top of his bag, so when the bag checker opened it up, they were looking directly at it. They let him in with it and didn't even ask what it was.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 ^^ I assume you don't mean People magazine PirateJohn There is an older man at the GC gate who searches EVERYTHING and always has. We call him Maxwell Smart. I cringe when I see him there because I know the procedure with him. On the other hand he's probably doing what they were taught after 9/11. For me it's been haphazard whether it's a cursary (sp) look or a may I see inside that compartment look. On the other hand it still amazes me that DH and other guys cargo pockets are bluging with stuff and never are asked about them. DH always has a diet coke bottle in one pocket, his cell phone in one and his wallet, camera in another. Once at the Monorail Station in DTD a CM asked to see the cell phone. Last time we were there was about a month ago and from velo's post it looks like they are getting more serious.
Originally Posted By velo yep, we saw a "checker" reporting a suspicious individual to uniformed Sec. guards and a few "tourists." These were obviously not actual visitors but under-cover security (by the way they were discussing things I could tell). It's all fine with me.
Originally Posted By ploeb909 I agree. I like the beef up on security. Its time consuming, but DL tends to always be packed! So can you imagine if someone had lets say an explosive or gun etc. the rampage of people if said individual took it out? Too many freaky things going on to be lax on these issues.
Originally Posted By PirateJohn I was working security for an air show at my Air Force base in May 2002. We had all been trained how to use those hand-held metal detectors, and about two dozen of us were stationed per entrance. (There was still a ridiculoulsy long wait to get in.) We were all pretty thorough with our checks, and I even found one guy who had a metal hip! That made the day interesting. But the most fun was, since I had to check everybody, I even would scan infants and toddlers. You'd think it's silly to do so, but 1) yes, terrorists will use toddlers if they see a security loophole, and 2) it was just so darned cute to see the kids' reactions to them. I had fun with that, even making a game out of it for them.
Originally Posted By Disney Joy DL security is pretty lame. I think why do they even pretend to go through the motions. Well cause they are paid. I unzip my bag - they don't look in and sometimes don't bother with the camera case at all. That's probably cause I'm so cute and unthreaten looking. huh
Originally Posted By alexbook I have this sneaking suspicion that the bag-checking is primarily for "show" and only secondarily for security. I think that passing through the checkpoint helps reassure guests that they're entering someplace "safe".
Originally Posted By cmpaley ^^^ I would tend to agree. I think that most of Disneyland's security is invisible, which, as far as I'm concerned, is best, both for the purposes of "Show" as well as actually catching bad people.
Originally Posted By dlkozy ^^^I have to disagree with you, my friend. IMHO, there is a difference between invisible, and nonexistent. The bag check is an example of nonexistent security-it does nothing, prevents nothing-it is not a form of "invisible security". That would imply that it accomplished something. It does not.
Originally Posted By nemopoppins The bag check is not nonexistent. One time it kept me from entering with a little tool in my purse that happened to have a two inch knife included. Who knows what I may have done with that? I just happened to not have chosen to do anything with it the dozens of other times I have entered before and after that with it. And they knew that. Boy they are good.
Originally Posted By dlkozy Sorry, I disagree with you. There are MANY times that they barely glance in bags at all-it is a complete waste of everyone's time.
