Originally Posted By Labuda <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-gutwillig/ca-marijuana-legalization_b_511484.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...484.html</a> Holy cow - if I could be allowed to be a responsible, law-abiding adult, I'd be all for it!
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Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie Wait! Are you saying we can have pot and NOT pretend it's medicinal??? <--- Grabs a medicinal beer.
Originally Posted By Labuda Looks like that may happen for Californians sometime after November, Minnie, yep!
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Wait! Are you saying we can have pot and NOT pretend it's medicinal??? <--- Grabs a medicinal beer. >>> That sort of attitude does a *huge* disservice to those that have a legitimate medical need for it.
Originally Posted By Mr X Not as bad a disservice as the attitude of politicians (Romney springs to mind) who claim it doesn't work and has no legitimate medical applications. <--wondering if SD may have misinterpreted the post, the way I read it she just meant one would have to pretend they have a medicinal NEED in order to enjoy some pot, whereas I think maybe SD read it as "we have to pretend it's medicinal in order to push for its' acceptance". ??
Originally Posted By SuperDry I didn't misread it. What I'm saying is that one of the counter-arguments to allowing medical pot is that what the people promoting it really want is to legalize it for recreational use, and are using the medical angle just as a smokescreen (sorry!). Every time someone says something like #5, it works against patients with serious medical conditions that could benefit from medical pot, as the detractors would say "See, that's what they wanted all along!" And even if they personally supported recreational use of pot, to put that above the medical needs of people like suffering cancer patients just isn't right IMHO. Please note that I didn't comment one way or the other about whether pot should be legalized (or perhaps just decriminalized for personal use) and taxed. My entire reaction here relates to the attempt to tie purported support for medical pot to an actual desire for recreational use.
Originally Posted By Disneybama don't move here its run by a group of nuts who for some reason want to bankrupt the state. TX, is run by normal people, stay there for your own good
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Wouldn't it be something if CA could balance its budget from the combination of taxes on pot (objectively less of a societal problem than the already-taxed alcohol), and money NOT spent on interdiction, arresting and jailing smokers, spending money trying to distinguish between legitimate and still-illegal use, and the lower crime rate that ending prohibition would almost certainly bring?
Originally Posted By barboy Lawful pot use in Cali.??? Hardly. Until the "federales" rewrite some laws, states/Congress amend our basic national charter or "Sonia/Thomas and the Supremes" strike down prevailing criminal statutes then what The Golden State does means nothing to the "freedom smoker". Basically there is only one place in the world where one can smoke pot lawfully and not face possible criminal retribution..... and Vancouver, Canada is not it.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ What you say is true, but only to an extent. State and local law enforcement don't enforce federal law. If the state and local governments legalize pot, then what are the chances that your average pot smoker is ever going to run into a federal law enforcement official that would be in a position to do anything about it? Perhaps if you were a trafficker or a large-scale grower, you'd still have issues. But I think the average Joe on the street would have very little to worry about should California decide to legalize it.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>But I think the average Joe on the street would have very little to worry about should California decide to legalize it.<< They'd have to worry about this: <a href="http://www.xomba.com/doritos_prices_rising_faster_than_gasoline" target="_blank">http://www.xomba.com/doritos_p...gasoline</a>
Originally Posted By alexbook That makes me wonder: Have we considered the possibility that Frito-Lay may be bankrolling this initiative?
