Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/08/AR2010100805640.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/...640.html</a> An astute assessment involving a big Beck fan.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Thanks for posting that...it is completely unsurprising that GB's blathering has led to things like that.
Originally Posted By Donny Is Beck really different then Rachel Maddow,Keith Olbermann ,Ed Schultz ???They make stuff up all the time of course they are on MSNBC the forgotten channel.I would Rick Sanchez but he was fired
Originally Posted By Donny OK lets start with Maddow <a href="http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/jack-coleman/2010/10/19/rachel-maddow-most-shameless-claims-gop-congressman-received-advance-n" target="_blank">http://www.newsbusters.org/blo...dvance-n</a> Tell me Mr.X is that OK for her to do ????
Originally Posted By Mr X Of course that's not okay. Which is why she offered an on-air retraction. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#39770305" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26...39770305</a> "I misstated the details of that true account that you just heard me give there back on the show in March. On Monday I said that Mr. Stockman's notice from the militia movement about the Oklahoma City bombing was advanced notice. It wasn't in advance, it was right after the bombing. I apologize for the misstatement. It was an editing error, and it was mine alone." Anything else?
Originally Posted By Donny surrrrrrrrrre but we both know if you put in the search Rachel Maddow or any of the other MSNBC people you will get a ton of hits so why waste time.My point is commentators say allot of irresponsible stuff. Do I really need to post one for each commentator ????
Originally Posted By Mr X No, you just need to post ONE where they "make stuff up". Making a mistake followed by an on-air retraction does NOT constitute "making stuff up".
Originally Posted By Donny are you kidding me ???She said that a Congreeman had advance knowledge of the Oklahoma bombing.What if a family membor herd that went and killed Mr. Stockman
Originally Posted By Mr X You misspelled "heard". And no, I'm not "kidding you", editing errors happen all the time. If they are corrected in a timely manner, that's far from "making stuff up". You also misspelled "member". What is with you teabaggers and your spelling issues!? Oh, and if you're so bloody worried about crazy on-air folks spewing crap that might motivate others to murder, start with Bill O'Reilly and his "Tiller the Baby Killer" mantra. Did he ever apologize, or even care? Even after Tiller was gunned down? And you say "are you kidding me"???? Puleeze.
Originally Posted By mele O'Reilly swears he only reported what *other* people called Tiller...however, he referred to him as a baby killer numerous times in his own rants. O'Reilly definitely has blood on his hands for this. But, apparently that's okay with FOX.
Originally Posted By dshyates Donny, I love that newsbusters website. The other big lie they caught Racheal "Madcow" in was that she called Megan McCain (aka Miss Piggy) a conservative. Be sure to read the comments section. <a href="http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2010/10/20/rachel-maddow-bizarrely-claims-after-puffy-poor-dear-interview-meghan-mc" target="_blank">http://www.newsbusters.org/blo...eghan-mc</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 There is indeed a difference in both degree and kind between making a mistake and instantly correcting it, and doing what Beck, Limbaugh, and (to a somewhat lesser degree) O'Reilly have done many times, which is simply make stuff up and never correct it. Not that people on the left could never do so. I remember driving through the midwest and hearing a leftie radio guy pull something out of his butt about Bush, and it ticked me off because it was just hogwash and demonstrably untrue. I have no idea who the guy was, and I've never heard of him again. But the usual meme of trying to equate Beck and Limbaugh with Olbermann and Maddow just won't fly. Yes, they're all ideological, and Olbermann can be a blowhard sometimes. (Though Maddow never is and is smarter than any of them.) But you'll have to do a much better job of showing that the latter two "make stuff up" than that one poor example.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<The other big lie they caught Racheal "Madcow" in was that she called Megan McCain (aka Miss Piggy) a conservative. >> First off, it's Meghan McCain, not Megan. And yes, she's a self-proclaimed conservative. If you think Meghan McCain is not conservative enough and therefore unworthy of holding the title of "conservative," that's your own political bias, not hers. Rachel Maddow is smarter than any pundit on the right and has the PhD in public policy to prove it. She doesn't "make stuff up" and makes corrections with full apologies for unintended errors in her stories when they become known. Still waiting for a solid example of something Dr. Maddow "made up" that she did not correct or retract later on.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Scary stuff. Glenn Beck needs to not be on the air.>> Whether it's Beck, Olbermann or Williams you may disagree with them but it is their right have their voices heard. We cannot be policing what others say or ask for them to be off the air just because we disagree with them.
Originally Posted By dshyates They have the right to say what they want. But that doesn't mean anyone has to give them the platform to say it. While media outlets also have the freedom to air it, they also have a responsibility to society to NOT air inciteful rhetoric.
Originally Posted By DAR But if given the platform they have the right to say it and it's up to us the viewer/listener/reader if we choose to support or be against it.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan In the case of Glenn Beck, he's lost tons of advertisers who have decided they don't really want their brand associated with his style of rhetoric.
