Originally Posted By Hista98 So I had a thought about the new FL in MK the other day and was wondeirng if anyone else thought this was wierd. For the new TLM ride the exterior is Prince Eric's beach front castle right? But the area it is going into is going to be themed to a fantasy forest. How is this going to look? to have a very beach front looking building in the middle of a forest? to me this doens't sound all the pretty, same with Dumbo's Circus. I think Sleeping Beauty's color world presented by Caryola and Cindy and Bell's area will work fine together since they could be in a forrest, but I don't see how a beach villa and a circus will fit, Now granted WDI is good at belnding themes but I honestly don't know how good this will look even when finished because the meshing might be too much of a streach and just look ugly.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer The Castle Walls will do a great job of separating the land. And, if done properly, all the foliage and detail will help, as well. And, there is a big castle at the end of MSUSA. That meshes perfectly. ;-)
Originally Posted By dshyates There is going to be a small walkway seperating the forest from the beach. Problem solved!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I don't think they're gonna' even have anything for Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella after all. At least that's what we've been reading from other ducklings who keep posting that the original ideas for those two were cut from the expansion plans.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Another thing to consider is this: For years Disney Imagineers have found ways to blend different attractions together for different stories without clashing themes. Consider how well Disneyland's Fantasyland works. A German fairy tale like Snow White sits next to an Italian fairy tale--meaning Pinocchio. ORWEN: And right acorss from those you have the English Peter Pan and Mr. Toad. Somehow Disney knows how to make them all come together just fine. ORDDU: Exactly! So not to worry!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>ORWEN: I don't think they're gonna' even have anything for Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella after all. At least that's what we've been reading from other ducklings who keep posting that the original ideas for those two were cut from the expansion plans.<<< A spirited duckling says that they will still be there...
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>A spirited duckling says that they will still be there...<< Seconded. All the M&Gs are still a go....unfortunately.
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Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Disney is never cutting anything involving princesses and/or meet-greet-and-gropes.
Originally Posted By SSE What is it going to take to finally get Disney to build quality attractions without cutting budgets or wasting money on stupid meet and greets. Is it going to take 10, 15, 20 yrs to find executives that care? I am still pretty young, but I won't be around forever.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Oh! I hope you're right, Spirit, duckling! I was gonna' be throwing away my crayons but now I won't have to! I was really looking forward to seeing the Woodcutter's cottage in person. I'm glad to hear all those other reports I read were false!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>What is it going to take to finally get Disney to build quality attractions without cutting budgets or wasting money on stupid meet and greets. Is it going to take 10, 15, 20 yrs to find executives that care? I am still pretty young, but I won't be around forever.<<< Proof that it still brings in guests as much as synergy does. How they'll see that, I don't know. Seeing that The Weatherman is a big proponent of franchises and the like, I assume that if he went, that idea would go with him...
Originally Posted By SSE ^^ I was really happy when Eisner finally left the company and thought that this would finally lead to a revolution where quality came first and that Iger would be a breath of fresh air. I guess I was wrong. I get flamed by people I know saying that Disney isn't as creative as they used to be. I was told not to criticize if I'm not going to do anything about it.
Originally Posted By Manfried Went to WDW for the Fourth. I think when the expansion is done it will look fine.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I was really happy when Eisner finally left the company and thought that this would finally lead to a revolution where quality came first and that Iger would be a breath of fresh air. I guess I was wrong. <<< Same here. I actually miss Eisner circa 1994...ish.
Originally Posted By magnet The turning point may have been when Frank Wells died in a tragic accident in 1994. He had Eisner's trust, and was a behind-the-scenes powerhouse that kept the peace in the Mouse house among many other things. After Frank was gone, Eisner's tendencies to alienate people, as one example, went unchecked and a downward spiral began. This is what I've gathered based on reading about that period and listening to people who remember that time.
Originally Posted By SFH The company answers to shareholders, many of which are institutional. Most shares are owned by people who want a return on their investment, sooner rather than later. Very few shares are owned by people who are fine with losing money on their share as long as they can say they "own a piece of the magic". That being said, there is a lot to be said for some of the company's value being the unique reputation it has. To keep that reputation, it must maintain certain levels of quality.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper It won't mesh. It won't mesh with any of MK's current theming aside from maybe Liberty Square. FF will look great, there's no denying that. But, it 's wooded and foresty look will clash with the concrete hell that the Magic Kingdom is. I can only hope that it's an impetous for more trees and greenery in the park.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It won't mesh. It won't mesh with any of MK's current theming aside from maybe Liberty Square. <<< Huh? How will a woodsy Fantasyland village match Colonial America? >>> concrete hell that the Magic Kingdom is. <<< Areas like the Hub, FanL, and TL, notwithstanding, how is FronL, LS, and above all, AdvL, "concrete hell"?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Huh? How will a woodsy Fantasyland village match Colonial America?>> The level of theming. <<Areas like the Hub, FanL, and TL, notwithstanding, how is FronL, LS, and above all, AdvL, "concrete hell"?>> Ummm...you've never walked along the main walkways of Frontierland, then. Because that red concrete is baking during a sunny day. And Adventureland needs more trees. There's almost none in the actual walkways.
