Originally Posted By iamgoofy I was just looking at some pictures at another site submitted by Darkbeer depicting goth days at DL. What is wrong with a time and a place for everything? Why does DL feel they must have Gay Days and Goth Days at DL. Not to say that this way of thought is wrong but it is far from the norm. Why cant DL strive to be wholesome which in my opinoion would mean what is the considered norm. Last I checked being gay or dressing such way for attention was not part of the norm of society. I like DL to reflect the general attitudes and morals of current day. Only 10 percent of society is gay and I am sure less then that is “goth†so these are far from the “normâ€. Why I feel DL should reflect these attitudes is because it is a place for kids and kids at heart. For me being gay or goth has no place for a kid.
Originally Posted By grammy954 I think Disney accepts everyone - just because a group is in the minority does not mean there is something wrong with that group - they just want to have a happy day just like everyone else. What sort of person would deny Disneyland to someone just because they are outside of the 'norm'?
Originally Posted By iamgoofy I am not saying deny...i am saying do not promote...funny how society is so politically correct that it infiltrates things that are for kids and supposed to remain and remind us of being kid like. When Walt Disney was alive he very fervently felt things should remain within what was considered the "norm".
Originally Posted By berol "Why does DL feel they must have Gay Days and Goth Days at DL." Disneyland doesn't. Other people run them.
Originally Posted By iamgoofy DL gives a special ticket discount to participants gay days. Therefore they support gay days...i do not get a special heterosexual discount day for ticket price.
Originally Posted By grammy954 Do you have a minority group who wants to celebrate their very existence by having a happy day at DL? My guess is all you have to do is call DL Marketing, just like other groups do. I believe that Walt said ALL are welcome, not just the norm...
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Both events are Unofficial, here are their websites, you will clearly see they state that fact. <a href="http://www.batsday.net/" target="_blank">http://www.batsday.net/</a> <a href="http://www.gaydaysanaheim.com/" target="_blank">http://www.gaydaysanaheim.com/</a> You want to start a "Heterosexual Day at the Fun Park", you can, and if you get enough people to attend, you can purchase discount tickets from Disneyland Group Sales.
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP I know that when I was a child there were a couple of "Mormon" Days at DL. Like I said I was child, so I don't remember if the price was discounted or not, but I do remember that it was promoted at church. I haven't seen that promotion for quite awhile. I really don't think that DL does absolutly anything to promote Bat's Day (Goth Days) I think it's just a bunch of Goth kids/adults who mainly enjoy going together and secondarily enjoy shocking the masses by their presence. They coordinate among themselves, as I understand it. Another fun gathering is if you are ever there on a Saturday night head over to the Carnation Gardens (Is that it? The dance floor on the other side of the wall from Rancho Z.) There you can see a bunch of people who can swing and jitterbug like you wouldn't believe. Some of the dancers dress up which adds to the fun. Besides the "professionals" there are also some people shuffleing arround the floor and little kids turning in circles and having fun. A good show all around!
Originally Posted By wonderingalice Oh boy... This topic is going to be rollin' like Indy's ball here any moment now! Mrs. ElderP, I'd love to be there on a Saturday for the dancing (alas, we're never there on Saturdays)... But I'm not sure ol' "Footloose" up there on Post # 1 approves of those wild jitterbuggers, either. ;-)
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Swing Nights at the Carnation Plaza Gardens are designed and paid for by DIsneyland itself, keeping up a tradtion that started in the 50's. Now the audience has set up a club and does communicate with each other, similar to the Billy Hill fans. Bats Day is realy unofffical, as they do not rent any facilities from Disney, instwad they rent convention space off property instead. About the only thing that is coordinated with Disney is the Main Group Photo in front of the Castle. The Disney PhotoPass folks come out and takes a picture and then offers it on sale, and a few CM's come out to perform crowd control, and they stop the Main Street Vehicles for about 15 minutes. But anybody can get that, I have helped arrange for PhotoPass to take a group shot for internet meets. You talk to a manger, and they will get a few PhotoPass CM's to come out (to scan cards after the photo) and brings a tripod to get a nice shot. Gay Days on the other hand, while still unofficial, does rent out space in the Disney hotels (mainly the DLH, but they also have events in the other hotels), the also rent out the Festival Arena, plus the House of Blues and Ralph Breenan's Jazz Kitchen. This brings in more money to Disneyland. Should be interesting this year, since it falls on a three day weekend for some (Columbus Day), so larger crowds than normal in the parks.
Originally Posted By LuLu LOL! Yes, I was thinking, what if Walt were "normal"? As in run-of-the-mill, average person? Just a smidge of imagination, like most of us? Sorry, I believe being ABnormal can be a plus sometimes... However, a question about Bat's Day (which I always try to attend,as a spectator)... we noticed that some gals had very sexy/revealing outfits on (one had 6" of skin showing on her h-ps with just buckled straps keeping her "skirt" on)... does DL monitor guest attire at all? Just curious...
Originally Posted By Tiggirl LOL! I very much like that saying Lady Starlight. It just seems so odd to me to want to deny people the right to gather and support each other just because they're outside the "norm". Maybe we should think about trying to get Disney to stop the Happy Hearts weekends as well because as we all know those with handicaps are outside the "norm"... and kids don't need to see that. Oh and lets stop those yearly events where those Disney nerds gather! Adults that into Disney?! That isn't normal either. They're having too much fun. Children should be shielded from such tomfoolery!(/sarcasm) Who cares what you wear and who cares who you love? As long as you're considerate to other guests, I have no problem with it. ~Beth
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Last I checked being gay or dressing such way for attention was not part of the norm of society." I find this comment commical given the number of flamboyantly gay performers in Disneyland parades and shows. And what about the kids running around the park dressed as fairy princesses and so forth? Are they not doing this for attention?
Originally Posted By DLTheo I'm sure what iamgoofy meant was that "gay" and "goth" are not only out of the norm, but considered highly contoversial to many, particularly where kids are exposed. Is that what you were getting at iamgoofy? Of course, if these special days are unofficial, the point is really moot isn't it? (I like that word, moot!)
Originally Posted By wonderingalice *LOL* Lady Starlight! Most excellent!! And Lulu... ABnormal DOES rock!! I love those moments in my life! (Thank goodness too, since they're coming quite frequently these days... Hee hee hee hee... ;-)
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I overheard one family talking to a custodial CM yesterday, complaining about how one female was dressed, and that "everything was hanging out". Alas, there were a FEW Bats Day folks who probably crossed the line of decency, especially in a family setting. And I am a fan of cleavage But there was a few that went overboard, especially on exposures to the rear. But the vast majority was fine and while sometimes attention getting, didn't have any naughty bits being exposed to the general public....
Originally Posted By danyoung If Disney closed the doors to the goths and the gays, they'd have to close the doors to the Christians and the Mormons and anybody else who wants to do a big group event at the park. There just isn't any legal way to do it. Not that there's any need - it's good for sheltered kids to get a taste of some craziness from time to time.
