I liked Joe Lieberman's speech

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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I really enjoyed his speech last night. And more than ever, I think had McCain gotten his way and had Lieberman on the ticket, moderates would have been drawn to the ticket in a big way.

    Lieberman spoke about how political parties should be secondary to doing what's right for the country. While the sticking point in that is deciding what is truly "right" for the country, the overall sentiment of it is something I think most people can agree with.

    We'll see how Sarah Palin does tonight. If she strikes that same tone of moderation Lieberman is, it'll be great for the ticket. If it's mostly a lot of conservative red meat, you'll hear wild cheers from the convention floor, but get ready for President Obama.
     
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    Originally Posted By Lisann22

    It was a great speech but in my opinions fell on deaf ears. Nor did it match the speeches before him so it was out of sync.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Oh yeah. Lieberman was a stranger in a strange land, for sure.

    I think his speech hit right where most Americans are at, politically speaking. Joe Lieberman would be a great centerpiece to a truly moderate third party.

    But in a room filled with people wearing stuffed elephants on their heads, it's probably not going to do a whole lot of good to discuss a non-partisan world. LOL
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I also noticed last night that the "reaction shots" of the audience seemed really off. Shots of some people chattering during Thompsons retelling of McCain's POW days, or worse, getting up and walking around.

    Did these delegates not understand that the event was being televised, and their #1 role is to appear engaged? Makes you shake your head...
     
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    Originally Posted By Lisann22

    It was also a sea of marshmallows.
     
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    Originally Posted By Ursula

    I am so glad for LP. I forgot to watch last night as I was busy running my life. Did I miss anything really major?

    I'm watching tonight, though!
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    Lieberman overstepped his bounds. He supports McCain - I get that. But he engaged in attacks against the democratic candidate along the way, and unsubstantiated ones at that.

    He stated that Obama has never 'reached across the aisle' to accomplish important legislation. Flat out untrue, and he knows it. On campaign finance reform, on legislation preventing terrorists from obtaining nuclear weapons, and on senate ethics legislation, Obama did indeed work with republicans effectively on "important legislation".

    I don't fault Lieberman for speaking at the GOP convention, but I DO fault him for misrepresenting the record of the democratic candidate.

    In fact, Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs has said Lieberman flat-out lied when he told delegates that Obama never successfully reached across party lines.

    So no - I didn't like Lieberman's speech.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    I liked Lieberman's speech a lot - accepting it for what it was, which was a speech at a political convention. He seemed quite sincere in his desire for the two sides to find middle ground, which is a desire I certainly share.

    However, his message kind of got thrown under the bus by the ultra-partisan fire and brimstone rant from Fred Thompson that immediately preceded it. I'm baffled at how the GOP, of all people, can have such a hard time staying on message.

    2oony - we had kind of a chat room going on the Sarah Pawlenty topic last night, and we had similar observations to yours. You ought to check it out.
     
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    Originally Posted By Lisann22

    I'm up for Round 2 tonight. LOL
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    After last night's All You Can Eat Red Meat fest, I like Joe Lieberman's speech even more than I did before.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    How to energize the Republican base:

    Get ugly. Throw 'em some red meat.

    Reasonableness just doesn't work.

    How'd they get here? (Rhetorical question. I know how they got here.)
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    And you may say to yourself - this is not my beautiful house...

    And you may say to yourself - this is not my beautiful party...

    And you may say to yourself - well, how did I get here?

    (The GOP moderate's lament)
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Oil flowing underground...
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Same as it ever was...

    Same as it ever was...

    (if we elect McCain)
     

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