Originally Posted By WilliamK99 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OPdTSnmzdb4 I know I know...he misspoke but it's still hilarious.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck What is really funny is trying to read the posts from all of the conservative clodhoppers, chiding him as if he were a complete imbecile. When Obama wins, these guys are going to melt down like the Wicked Witch Of The West!
Originally Posted By utahjosh Ha ha ha the other guys are so dumb!! It will be great to see them suffer!!! Ha ha ha!!
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Speaking of VPs or possibe VPs, where's Paul Ryan been? Is he still on the ticket? Talk about a non-factor.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer They are going to melt down because their media venues of choice are giving the talking points and propaganda rather than anything approaching facts. They think Romney has a better chance at winning than every poll shows.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yes - if you only look at Fox, you'd think Romney was leading in the "only polls that matter" and that he'll win handily on Tuesday. When he doesn't, it just gives them more fuel to say that the election was "stolen" somehow. Meanwhile, uber-geek (and I say that in a good way) Nate Silver has Obama back up to an 84% favorite based on a very clear-eyed look at literally hundreds of polls over the months, and external factors as well. Here's the latest from Nate: "Yes, of course: most of the arguments that the polls are necessarily biased against Mr. Romney reflect little more than wishful thinking. Nevertheless, these arguments are potentially more intellectually coherent than the ones that propose that the race is “too close to call.” It isn’t. If the state polls are right, then Mr. Obama will win the Electoral College. If you can’t acknowledge that after a day when Mr. Obama leads 19 out of 20 swing-state polls, then you should abandon the pretense that your goal is to inform rather than entertain the public. But the state polls may not be right. They could be biased. Based on the historical reliability of polls, we put the chance that they will be biased enough to elect Mr. Romney at 16 percent."
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< But the state polls may not be right. They could be biased. >>> Bias isn't the only factor to be considered. There's also measurement error. There's also issues regarding voter turnout that varies by supported politician for a variety of reasons. There's also people that change their mind.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 All true. But it's also true that the polls taken just before the election have tended to be quite close to the actual results in recent years.
Originally Posted By DVCdadII <<<What is really funny is trying to read the posts from all of the conservative clodhoppers, chiding him as if he were a complete imbecile.>>> Uh...it's pretty hard to defend a complete imbecile. (Well, I couldn't just pop in and leave without one single last parting shot at Biden, he's too easy. See you all in 4 years! Congratz on the win tonight!
