Originally Posted By davewasbaloo AS many as now. And if I were local, probably about 6 times a year (maybe more - depends on whether there were multi day tickets still)
Originally Posted By Mickeysbestfan ++And if I were local, probably about 6 times a year (maybe more - depends on whether there were multi day tickets still)++ So if there were no AP's and you lived locally, you would be willing to spend at a minimum of $400 six times a year to go to DL? I base that on the fact that you are a family of 4. If they had a multiday ticket that would be closer to $600 or $700 at a time. Many locals can probably afford the s.cal passes now. But at that price many probabably would be priced out of the parks completely. While that would be great for the guests that are there with having smaller crowds, you get into the fact that smaller crowds means less money for Disneyland to grow or improve anything. Means less money for shows and entertainers. I would only guess that if they priced the parks out of reach for the locals like that, they would then have less success with the city counsil and residents of Anaheim to get things passed in their favor. If the locals couldn't enjoy the parks, why would they pass items to help improve the parks?
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight If there was no such thing as an annual pass,*faints* I'd stand outside DL with my face pressed against the gates cryin my heart out. I'd probably go once a month.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo WEll, yes, it is true, I would much rather pay for quality. Frankly, Disneyland is in line with other premium entertainments - concerts, sporting events etc. The commoditised abuse of a fan base that treat is as a mall means we get poorer quality experiences. TDL always up the anti because they have to try harder to get people to buy the day tickets and expensive APs (nearly 2x the cost of DL premium AP). I would much rather we had a quality model, and I would be willing to pay for it too.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I remember a time before APs, and Disneyland was better in almost every respect back in those days too.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo So yes, I would happily pay $2000 a year for a family AP or the single admissions to get that return to quality.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Disneyland should not be an entitlement. The fact that people save to go, and then have a better experience is likely to result in a better pay off for everyone.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan What I'm asking is, if you had to pay the full rate, full fare admission price or multi-day park hopper price, would you pay that one a week? Once a month? Once a year? Once every couple years?
Originally Posted By Ursula Oh, if I had to pay... I get the question now, sorry. I would go twice a year to DL and then our usual one to two-week WDW trip. I would probably skip DCA every-other trip or are we assuming park-hoppers are available for purchase? For DL: One time would be at Christmas, so since I like to go in January, there goes the Halloween trip. I'd still do the CHOC Walk, though, I just wouldn't go into the park at the end. But for WDW, I'd have to be really creative on the tickets. No park-hoppers and no length of stay passes. Some days, we like to resort-hop and rent boats and hit DTD and the like. It would take a LOT more planning as one would have to make creative ADRs.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I live in San Francisco and I'm not, nor have I ever been, an AP holder. With that said, if the experience was improved I'd probably go more often.
Originally Posted By WDWdreamin I've been going to DL once a year since I was about 15. This year I got my first AP and have gone 9 times. Next year I probably won't go at all. (I would if I was in town when meets were happening.) So, without APs I'd still probably be at 1x/year.
Originally Posted By mawnck Zero to two. I'm not interested in going unless there's something in particular I really want to see. The crowds are part of that, though not the main part. Just for the record, when I did have the AP, I spent VERY little money on Disney property. They make more on me when I'm outside the parks than when I'm inside 'em. It's people like me that they need to price out of the APs.
Originally Posted By LuLu I'd probably go once or twice a year with a 3-day parkhopper. So Disney would get a little more $ from me from admission media, while the local hotels would get less. (I probably average 6 to 8 2-day trips a year, buying a Deluxe AP approx. every 18 months.)
Originally Posted By LuLu BTW the no-AP scenario would RUIN the pin collector market, and probably drop sales of a lot of other merch as well. Since Disney loves to move that merch, I'm not sure this would work out well for them. Not meaning to derail the topic, but that just occurred to me.
Originally Posted By Tandelothien Since I come from Australia and have to save up for airfares, hotels etc. I would still come as often as I do (and as often as I could afford) but I'd buy the 14 day park hopper instead and miss out on all the great discounts (probably spend as much though, just wouldn't get as much for my $$$).
Originally Posted By fkurucz Since we visit less frequently now it wouldn't affect us directly. Its been over a year now since our last trip and a visit next year is increasingly looking doubtful. Now, if no APs meant fewer crowds, then we would probably visit more.
