Originally Posted By RoadTrip KT figures that if he posts enough of his copy/paste stuff everyone will lose interest and the thread will die. I call it the Darkbeer Manuever.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Next up, KT will trash himself and post some anti-gay stuff.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275" target="_blank">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n ews/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275</a> <<While President Bush says the U.S. needs more "cheap labor" from south of the border to do jobs Americans aren't willing to do, the case of the Silverios shows there are indeed uncalculated costs involved in the importation of such labor – public support and uninsured medical costs. In fact, the increasing number of illegal aliens coming into the United States is forcing the closure of hospitals, spreading previously vanquished diseases and threatening to destroy America's prized health-care system, says a report in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. "The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences," writes Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of the report. "We judge reality primarily by what we see. But what we do not see can be more dangerous, more expensive, and more deadly than what is seen." According to her study, 84 California hospitals are closing their doors as a direct result of the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the system. "Anchor babies," the author writes, "born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income.">>
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275" target="_blank">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n ews/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275</a> <<"Today, legal immigrants must demonstrate that they are free of communicable diseases and drug addiction to qualify for lawful permanent residency green cards," writes Cosman, a medical lawyer, who formerly taught medical students at the City University of New York. "Illegal aliens simply cross our borders medically unexamined, hiding in their bodies any number of communicable diseases." Many illegals entering this country have tuberculosis, according to the report. "That disease had largely disappeared from America, thanks to excellent hygiene and powerful modern drugs such as isoniazid and rifampin," says the report. "TB's swift, deadly return now is lethal for about 60 percent of those infected because of new Multi-Drug Resistant Tuberculosis. Until recently MDR-TB was endemic to Mexico. This Mycobacterium tuberculosis is resistant to at least two major anti-tubercular drugs. Ordinary TB usually is cured in six months with four drugs that cost about $2,000. MDR-TB takes 24 months with many expensive drugs that cost around $250,000 with toxic side effects. Each illegal with MDR-TB coughs and infects 10 to 30 people, who will not show symptoms immediately. Latent disease explodes later. TB was virtually absent in Virginia until in 2002, when it spiked a 17 percent increase, but Prince William County, just south of Washington, D.C., had a much larger rise of 188 percent. Public health officials blamed immigrants. In 2001 the Indiana School of Medicine studied an outbreak of MDR-TB, and traced it to Mexican illegal aliens. The Queens, New York, health department attributed 81 percent of new TB cases in 2001 to immigrants. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ascribed 42 percent of all new TB cases to 'foreign born' people who have up to eight times higher incidences apparently, 66 percent of all TB cases coming to America originate in Mexico, the Philippines and Vietnam." Other health threats from illegals include, according to the report: Chagas disease, also called American trypanosomiasis or "kissing bug disease," is transmitted by the reduviid bug, which prefers to bite the lips and face. The protozoan parasite that it carries, Trypanosoma cruzi, infects 18 million people annually in Latin America and causes 50,000 deaths. The disease also infiltrates America's blood supply. Chagas affects blood transfusions and transplanted organs. No cure exists. Hundreds of blood recipients may be silently infected. Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease, was so rare in America that in 40 years only 900 people were afflicted. Suddenly, in the past three years America has more than 7,000 cases of leprosy. Leprosy now is endemic to northeastern states because illegal aliens and other immigrants brought leprosy from India, Brazil, the Caribbean and Mexico. Dengue fever is exceptionally rare in America, though common in Ecuador, Peru, Vietnam, Thailand, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Mexico. Recently, according to the report, there was a virulent outbreak of dengue fever in Webb County, Texas, which borders Mexico. Though dengue is usually not a fatal disease, dengue hemorrhagic fever routinely kills. Polio was eradicated from America, but now reappears in illegal immigrants as do intestinal parasites, says the report. Malaria was obliterated, but now is re-emerging in Texas. The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons report includes a strong prescription for protecting the health of Americans: Closing America's borders with fences, high-tech security devices and troops. Rescinding the U.S. citizenship of "anchor babies." Punishing the aiding and abetting of illegal aliens as a crime. An end to amnesty programs.>>
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>" Facts are facts."<<< Yes. I have them and YOU do not. I have to laugh out loud at your presumptuousness, yet again. I don't know who you think you are to tell someone else that their facts are wrong when I have the paperwork in front of me! YOU are wrong-yet AGAIN! Not everything fits into nice little compartments just because YOU want it that way. I am tired of your name calling and down right nastiness. Find another hobby-I am NOT interested in being yours. How many times does LP Admins have to remind you to play nice anyway? Done with you.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <a href="http://www.americandaily.com/article/7751" target="_blank">http://www.americandaily.com/a rticle/7751</a> <<Illegal Immigrants Are Spreading Dangerous Diseases Across This Nation By Dave Gibson (05/12/05) It is often said that the flood of illegal immigrants into this country is reaching 'epidemic proportions.' While that statement is true--it is just as true that the illegal immigrants pouring over the U.S.-Mexican border are endangering this country with actual epidemics. Tuberculosis, hepatitis, dengue fever, chagas, and even leprosy are being imported into the U.S. inside the bodies of illegal aliens...And you thought they only carried heroin-filled baloons inside their bodies! A 'hot-zone' of disease can be found in this nations border states. Illegal immigrants are setting up so-called "colonias" just inside the states of New Mexico, Texas, and Arizona. The shanty towns are comprised mostly of cardboard shacks and huts made with cast-off building materials. They have no sanitation, and are surrounded by mounds of garbage. The estimated 185,000 illegals share their makeshift towns with armies of rats. Of course, diseases only common to Central and South America run rampant in these places. One of the imports to this country is chagas disease. It is caused by a parasite known as trypanosome. It is a blood-borne disease and is spread by triatomine insects. The parasite burrows into human tissue (usually in the face), where it then begins to multiply. In addition to being spread by insects, it can also be contracted through blood transfusions. After cases of chagas were reportedly discovered to have been spread by transfusions in Canada, that nation began testing all blood donations for the disease.>>
Originally Posted By Lisann22 Why can't you just explain her struggle dlkozy? I'm not sure you realize just how vicious and venomous you sound. RT in my opinion has been extremely more civil than you. You keep crying name calling and I don't see it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <This thread has jumped the shark.> And the tuna and the barracuda and the beluga whale.
Originally Posted By jonvn I think what KT is doing actually amounts to abuse of this board. It's called flooding.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I don't understand what KT's point is because I'm not reading any of what he posts. If he can't speak for himself then don't bother posting.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<RT in my opinion has been extremely more civil than you. You keep crying name calling and I don't see it.>> Thank you for noticing. I have been doing my best to resist the temptation to fight back on that level. I'm glad the effort is recognized.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I noticed it as well. DLKozy went after me too for disagreeing as well, so I didn't want to tempt fate anymore and say anything.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I only managed to wade through the first couple of KT's posts before losing interest, but I will try to address a couple of points I remember. Forgive me if I'm slightly wrong on the points, but I will not subject myself to the pain of reviewing those posts again. 1) We did fine and dandy, in fact had enormous advances in technology, during a major portion of the last century without the assistance of immigrants. Wrong. There may not have been much immigration, but the immigration that occurred brought us the best and the brightest. We owe our advances in nuclear weapons, nuclear power, missile technology, the space program, etc. to Jewish immigrants who came to this country during the WWII era. 2) People used to take the unskilled labor positions when there were no illegal immigrants to fill the positions. Correct. They USED to. Americans are frankly much lazier now than they were in the past. They don't want to do hard physical work any more. All you need to do is look at our waistlines to see that. This has been also been a result of the tremendous growth in the service industry. Let's see now. I can make $8 per hour doing back-breaking physical labor picking crops in 90 degree heat or I can make $8 per hour in air conditioned comfort asking people if they want fries with their order. Which job am I going to take? 3) The huge amount we spend on health care for illegal immigrants. Yes we do. We spend huge amounts of public money because we force them to receive care in that way. When you are an illegal, payday is often the boss putting cash in your hand at the end of the day. There aren't many employer paid health plans with that type of labor. If you allowed these workers to step out of the shadows and take REAL jobs with REAL benefits they wouldn't have to rely on the public subsidizing their health care.
Originally Posted By jonvn "If he can't speak for himself then don't bother posting." It's an interesting thing when people do this. It's as if they are an empty vessel, and have no thoughts of their own other than what they are told. It goes directly from what they have read here, without any intermediate processing. Agree with post 255. But you should also recognize that not only did Jewish immmigrants come during wwii, but during the 30s, as well, and many were writers and artists. Immigration has never done a thing but be a benefit to this country. That's what this country basically is, a nation of immigrants hoping to find a better way.
