Originally Posted By Mr X **But at customs, yeah, its like they got my picture up or something lol.** Yeah, sorry about that. I sorta gave it to em (got a nice kickback too).
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, don't worry about it dude. Can't wait next time I'm at TDR and pass 'reports' of a suspected pedophile in the area with your picture on it and your known ID handle known as 'loverboy 360' to people at the gates of both parks and Ikispari!! For Gay days at TDL, I will make sure they all get pictures of you as the homophobe that you and your 12 step conversion to change anyone back to straight if they just follow Jesus. Its going to be a FUN time back....assuming I can get through customs ;D.
Originally Posted By Mr X You won't. Unless you can figure out which item of clothing I rubbed hasish on when you were drunk (the scent doesn't come out in the wash).
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^Daaaaaamn you Mr. X . On my way to custom jail, I will be sure to pass the officers your picture though so when you are photographed in the immigration line, on your way to coughCambodiacough, we can share a cell ;D.
Originally Posted By jonvn If you really want to get him in trouble, rub some nitrates on his clothes.
Originally Posted By dlkozy Just the fact that illegals ARE illegals means that they are criminals breaking the law. I am SICK of this PC baloney! I live in CA and we PAY for this CRIMINAL behavior everyday. There is a bill right now that would let illegal aliens have the right to SCHOLARSHIPS here in CA. I have a person close to my family who is in law enforcement in another state where their BIG concern right now is the Mexican Maffia that has arrived there and has set up shop. It is a slap in the face to EVERY immigrant that has come to America LEGALLY and has jumped through ALL the hoops to become LEGAL-when more action is not taken against those that enter our country illegally!
Originally Posted By pecos bill It is true that all illegal aliens are criminals, and if they will engage in one illegal act then a few more wont make any difference right? The point is that the illegal workforce in itself represents a criminal element, one that would not think twice about using fake documents and stolen identifications to achieve their goals. There is a whole underground support force in this country that aids illegals in every way possible. Identification, Social Security, drivers license, you name it, and it is mostly illegal and under the radar. So you think they are working in slaughterhouses and sewer plants? Look again next time you drive through a construction site. Carpentry, Masonry, paving, underground, electrical, landscape, to name a few. All jobs that have seen wages and benefits decrease substantially because someone will simply do it for less. Do you people really think that the greedy, unscrupulous business owners using these workers are really passing the savings on to you? The whole illegal workforce is based on lies and the exploitation of our weak and shoddy system. They are a drain on our social services, hospitals, jails, welfare, schools, all while paying a fraction, if any, of the taxes needed to support them. Talk to my friend, who lost his leg in a collision with an unlicensed and uninsured illegal. He is crippled for life, with no legal or financial recourse, while the driver who hit him is simply sent home, with a free ticket to boot. Laws that would put a citizen in jail, or subject them to wage garnishment do not frighten an illegal, they simply get a new identity and are good to go! These poor, humble, hat in hand people have got some of you fooled. Some of us are onto their game.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>The point is that the illegal workforce in itself represents a criminal element<< Yes. It involves whole industries who employ people illegally. Not only does this rob us taxpayers many ways, it completly exploits the illegal workers, allowing them to be paid pennies for backbreaking work. But we do very little to actually go after the EMPLOYERS, instead focusing our wrath on the people drawn here for a better life. >>Do you people really think that the greedy, unscrupulous business owners using these workers are really passing the savings on to you?<< EXACTLY! I wish we'd spend at least SOME of our energy zeroing in on the AMERICANS who are living large off the backs of illegal workers. Stealing relief supplies, especially to sell, is about as low as it gets. Worthy of the death penalty though? I'd really hate to think life is that cheap.
Originally Posted By pecos bill Wealthy employers have piles of political clout, it is no surprise that they have been riding this thing out in relative anonymity. Its the golden rule, the ones with the gold make the rules!
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"Stealing relief supplies, especially to sell, is about as low as it gets. Worthy of the death penalty though? I'd really hate to think life is that cheap."<<< I don't see this as anything more than looting. And I think looters ought to be shot on sight.
Originally Posted By Mr X Are you in favor of the death penalty for thieft, kozy? Or is it the combo of thieft mixed with "taking advantage of a bad situation"? I don't think that deserves death myself...but strong punishments would be great. Also for price gougers (seen plenty of THAT during tough times, and I don't see too many businesses get in trouble for it!).
Originally Posted By Mr X I just KNEW my spelling of "theft" looked totally wrong. I kept switching the i before e...duh. <--proud American public schoool graduate.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Are you in favor of the death penalty for thieft, kozy?" I am. Pretty much. Depends on the circumstances. What makes these people criminals, and opens the door for their criminal behavior is that they have been criminalized by the idiotic laws we have in this country. By making them criminals by their very nature, there is very little incentive to want to follow the law. They are already illegal, and do not have a stake in being good citizens, because they are not by definition. This is what causes a lot of crime to breed.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, some of guys basically sound like you want to live in Communist China. After we shoot them for stealing the box of food they stolen, why don't you just mail the bill for the payment back to the family. If they can't pay it, we offer them a work program in America to pay it off ;D.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney I meant to say why don't we mail the bill for the bullet back to the family. Yeah, that's better .
Originally Posted By jonvn "After we shoot them for stealing the box of food" Bullets cost money. We should just strangle them by hand. Much more cost effective.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"Or is it the combo of thieft mixed with "taking advantage of a bad situation"?"<<< That's exactly the situation. It is not unusual during a catastrophe that the lowest of the low will come out of their dirty little hiding places and try to prey on others. Looters are in that category, IMHO. >>>"I don't think that deserves death myself...but strong punishments would be great."<<< What did you have in mind? If looters want to take the chance knowing that they will be shot on sight, that the shooter is a poor marksmen, let them.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>some of guys basically sound like you want to live in Communist China.<< LOL, perhaps. Or maybe it makes people feel tough. Gotta love vigilante justice. >>Looters are in that category, IMHO.<< How about insurance swindlers? Contractors that jack up their rates after something like this? Should we shoot them, too? How about the people who made poor land management decisions that contributed to the intensity of the fire? Should they be shot? Gonna be awful noisy in California as we 'round up all these people and start gunnin' 'em down.
Originally Posted By dlkozy Well K2M, if a tragedy such as losing your home or perhaps your business were to happen to you, and then the buzzards arrived to steal even more than the tragedy did from you-what would you like to see happen to them?
