Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/exchange/blogs/in.the.field/" target="_blank">http://edition.cnn.com/exchang e/blogs/in.the.field/</a> Okay, I think this is creepy and weird, and I don't "get it", and I feel bad for the kids... But, somehow, I don't think they guy deserves to go back to jail. Thoughts?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder So these two met before they knew they were brother and sister?
Originally Posted By FaMulan When I read the story, that point seemed kinda hazy SPP. I say, if they had no knowledge of their biological bond before they engaged in intimate behavior and their attitude toward each other hasn't changed since they disovered that bond, let them be. If they had knowledge beforehand that they were sibs, then it's just damned creepy.
Originally Posted By Jetlag They met after the death of their mother. They knew that they were siblings then, but fell in love anyway. Before I heard of the story I didn´t even knew that many other european countries had already lifted the ban on incest, since the genetic aspect has been revisited.
Originally Posted By Mr X FaMulan, in any case, I agree with you that it is CREEPY. And weird. And I don't think I'd care to be friends with either of them (I have a sister myself...EWWW! is all I can say). BUT...do you think he belongs in JAIL? Frankly, I don't think so. In any case of this nature, I don't see why the "offender" (creepy as they may be) should be behind bars. And, why only him and not her? This is not a stat-rape case, as far as I read...why is only the male being prosecuted (he ALREADY spent time in jail for this "crime", in case anyone missed that part...)??
Originally Posted By SuperDry I think the reason most people would think that it's creepy is because their own experience with siblings is in knowing them since they were kids and growing up with them. You're naturally going to have very different emotional feelings in the normal situation than you would with a complete stranger that you never have met until adulthood that just happened to be your sibling, whether you're aware of that fact or not.
Originally Posted By Mr X Sure... But, the whole REASON why it's creepy to begin with is that the kids come out all wrong (as far as I know)... Which is the reasoning behind the law, right? BUT...this couple already had kids, and they're okay. Anyway....I hope they don't jail that guy. Creepy or not, it just doesn't seem right to me. Anyone come up with a reason yet why the GUY is jailed by the woman is not punished?
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<But, the whole REASON why it's creepy to begin with is that the kids come out all wrong >> Uh, no, that's not why sleeping with a sibling would be creepy. It isn't creepy because of the law. I don't need a law to tell me why something is creepy or wrong. Generally, people feel something is creepy and wrong and then they create the law, not the other way around.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka That being said, I don't believe either of these people belong in jail or deserve to have their children taken away.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Well, if they knew they were brother and sister beforehand, even if only briefly, then yeah, it's more than creepy. I have very hot-looking step sister, but just by virtue of that the thought never crossed my mind to pursue anything, ever. I think most people who would meet someone, find them attractive, and then discover they're siblings would slam on the brakes. But to know ahead of time and then still do it, I dunno, that's just wrong. As for jail, that's an interesting call. I can't say I'm completely against the idea. I find it hard to fathom that a country would lift a law against incest. I believe one of the main reasons for laws such as this have to do with possible defective children, but I can't be sure. More to the point though, it's to discourage aberrant behavior between siblings who grow up together, especially unwanted advances from a predatory sibling that might otherwise go unreported.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<especially unwanted advances from a predatory sibling that might otherwise go unreported. >> Good point. Although, were many people prosecuted for things like that way back when some of these older laws were passed? Incest was such a taboo subject up until just the past 20 years or so.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Although, were many people prosecuted for things like that way back when some of these older laws were passed? Incest was such a taboo subject up until just the past 20 years or so." The behavior itself is sadly more prevalent than you'd like to think, but as far as prosecutions are concerned, I'm not privy to those numbers. There aren't that many of them however for a variety of reasons, one being the humiliation the victim has to endure. Pleas are taken in most cases that are opened.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I find it hard to fathom that a country would lift a law against incest. I believe one of the main reasons for laws such as this have to do with possible defective children, but I can't be sure. >>> The article said that many other European countries have lifted the ban long ago. I'd be curious to see what the experience has been on those countries has been after legalization. Have there been many sibling marriages? Have the offspring of such marriages had lots of birth defects?
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Oh, I know incest/molestation is quite prevalent...I just wondered how much it was really prosecuted. I wonder how many of these laws were passed to really protect people or were just based on morality, like sodomy laws for example.
Originally Posted By jonvn "the kids come out all wrong " That's really not true. What happens is that you can get an increase in recessive genetic traits, but it does not mean that the kids will come out as bad at all. Way back when this is how things all went along anyway. People used to procreate with their siblings. In some societies today, it's considered proper for first cousins to marry, and they are very close to being direct siblings.
Originally Posted By Mr X >>>I have very hot-looking step sister, but just by virtue of that<<< That's entirely different. It's all in your head, the law is on your side. Go for it.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "That's entirely different. It's all in your head, the law is on your side. Go for it. " Yeah well, she's now in Singapore, a geandmother, I'm married..........
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I read this thread and couldn't believe my eyes! (I'll refer to eyes again in a minute.) I am in this same situation, (mom deceased just before discovering long lost siblings.) The only differences are that I was not only an adult before meeting my biological sister (and brother), I was also happily married with one child. It is a very difficult thing to get your mind around. You have by genetic default, waaaaay too many of the same likes/dislikes, physical features, mannerisms, even opinions and morals believe it or not. Having said that... I would highly recommend giving these two the benefit of the doubt. This is certainly a situation that you CANNOT POSSIBLY judge what you would do until you walk a mile in their shoes. I will admit, IF I were attracted to her, I would consciously CHOOSE to NOT marry my sister, however, it would be an absolutely cognitive decision, unaffected by anything else. I mean my biological sister is as different to me as ANY woman that I didn't grow up with, didn't know. The insight on this situation is magnified for me because I was the only child adopted into the family in which I grew up in, and in my adoptive family I have another sister. However I grew up with her, and I can assure you, there is NO WAY ON EARTH I would EVER remotely consider.......anything, I can't even say it, with her. It's actually amazing how things turned out for my situation. There is something to be said for growing up knowing you were adopted, then finally finding your biological siblings, and for the first time in your life you are able to look in the eyes of a blood relative. There is also something indescribable about looking into the eyes of someone only to see subtle but sure eyes looking back at you, that look exactly like the eyes you see in the mirror. It's (the only word I can use is) odd, and what a bonus that they belong to a beautiful woman. Yep these two get the full benefit of the doubt from me, but I don't think I would have married my sister, ONLY because she is in fact, my sister.
Originally Posted By avromark They could just move to one of those countries that made it legal (my guess is they're Eastern European countries). Circumstances not withstanding, they had knowledge before hand, and they weren't "Initially in love" so they could have prevented the situation from ever happening.
