Originally Posted By TDLFAN Likewise I can say "MK is truly filthy" or "HKDL is not crappy in my book" and neither statement can be an accurate view of both parks, just like your views can also be concidered inaccurate. >>This doesn't make sense to me.<< That would be because you are putting proverbial words in my mouth. I actually *want* you to go so you can make your own opinion of the park in regards to the problems many discuss here. Buut you seem to be affraid of finding out for yourself, even if what you are affraid of learning isn't even true!!! Confused? And yes... like you so eloquently proclaim... I have no life. I do not have a child and a wife to attend to like yoou do. My husband is out of the house away at work more often than the time he is in.. so yes I am a *fanatic* Disney freak and PROUD OF IT. I am glad I have the right job and free time to enjoy my hobby to the fullest possible degree.
Originally Posted By Mr X SD, started a thread just for ya... <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MSGBOARD-T-90273-P-1.ASP" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/MS GBOARD-T-90273-P-1.ASP</a> **That would be because you are putting proverbial words in my mouth. I actually *want* you to go so you can make your own opinion of the park in regards to the problems many discuss here. Buut you seem to be affraid of finding out for yourself, even if what you are affraid of learning isn't even true!!! Confused?** Yes, yes, I understand what you are driving at. And it would make sense if I'd never been there, but I've been to the magic kingdom probably 50-100 times in my life. So, if it's gone downhill as you say, why the heck would I want to go back there? Sure, if they'd added some neat new stuff, I'd want to check it out...but it sounds to me like the other parks have cooler additions anyway (Epcot and Animal Kingdom are my main priorities if time becomes a factor). But I'm certainly not "afraid to find out" lol. If it's dirty, it wouldn't surprise me (I'm plenty cynical about Disney and the cost cutting thing), nor would it particularly bother me. As for enjoying your hobby, have at it! I'm not saying you shouldn't, but if you really want to compare the level of time and detail (and MONEY, considering your frequent shopping sprees lol) that you spend on the parks worldwide compared to others as a measure of someone being a "true fan", then I think you might just be in a league of your own. Heck, I could WALK to TDR from my house, and I don't even own an annual pass!
Originally Posted By Mr X One more thing...the fact that I reside in Urayasu, Chiba, Japan and all the wonderful experiences that go with that are all BECAUSE of my love for Disney parks. I chose to move down to Orlando back in 1996 in order to live near DisneyWorld, and hopefully get a job performing music there...the rest, is history. How much more of a "true fan" could I be!?
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<Did TDLFAN, who you blatently kiss up to, offer a more succinct view of what I am saying?>> TDLFAN goes "above and beyond" for LP by taking time out of his international Park visits to photo-document new and interesting events, attractions, construction, and states-of-being of the Parks. Even if he's on a brief visit to Tokyo and only has one opportunity to experience a particular parade or water show, he does it with his camera to his face so that he can share it with us. And then he comes home, downloads, captions, and uploads. And writes an extensive post for the edification and enjoyment of LP readers to accompany the generous Epson photo show. His commentaries are informed, balanced, intelligently critical, and entertaining. When he expends that time and energy, I try to show that I appreciate his effort. I know that these reports don't create themselves. And I know that too small a percentage of LP readers will respond with any acknowledgement. I don't consider my (insufficient) "THANK YOU!" posts on these threads to be "kissing up". But I am aware every time I post one that people might think I'm doing it because I'm a "fan." Wrong. Perhaps as many times as I've gushed with gratitude on LP over his Park updates -- and despite the fact that we're friends in "real life" -- I've taken him to task on LP over posts in which I've disagreed with him or found him to be offensive. We've "had it out" on LP a few times. One difference between TDLFAN and Spirit of 74 is that when I disagree with TDLFAN on LP, he never responds with cleverly couched character assasination.
Originally Posted By Mr X Good point, Inspector...TDLFAN is definitely an underappreciated asset here, considering all the effort he puts into showing us all the current goings on in all the Asian Disney parks... I'll second that "thanks". He's still a cantankerous fella though, at least online.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I-57, no one appreciates TDLFAN's photo reports more than I do. Especially as someone who has to wait until 2008 to visit the final three Disney parks he hasn't visited yet! If there's one complaint I have, and I've expressed this to TDLFAN, it's that his reports are sometimes TOO GOOD and TOO MUCH. People have short attention spans (well, some do) and looking at 300 pics is a bit much. TDLFAN is an amazing photographer (I've often told him he could do a better job than the staff photogs at WDW). As to this: <<One difference between TDLFAN and Spirit of 74 is that when I disagree with TDLFAN on LP, he never responds with cleverly couched character assasination. >> I reject your assertion. I don't attack people's character unless they do likewise to me. Simple as that.
Originally Posted By Mr X Maybe you guys could settle this the old fashioned way. 10 paces at high noon (I'll bring the popcorn).
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<I reject your assertion. I don't attack people's character unless they do likewise to me. Simple as that.>> Nice try. Factually incorrect. But it's late.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN BOYS!!! ENOUGH!! It's time to interrupt this nonsense to remind you all that I have just posted my "HKDL End of Summer" report, with hundreds of photos of the same old stuff you have seen already. >>Heck, I could WALK to TDR from my house, and I don't even own an annual pass! << Then do it for the sake of reducing that beer belly.
Originally Posted By Mr X **Then do it for the sake of reducing that beer belly.** lol. well a day at Disney IS good excercise on the one hand, but then again the place is also full of oh so bad treats like cappuchino popcorn and Yucatan Sausage Rolls... And, at DisneySea, beer!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>well a day at Disney IS good excercise on the one hand<< There you go. Yet another reason to go to the MK so you can see the hundreds of guests around your age and mine, who are so big for being sedentary, they must roll around WDW in those electric carts, which is a sight you do not see at TDR quite as often, if ever.
Originally Posted By Mr X I can honestly say that I have NEVER seen that at TDR in my entire 5 and a half years of working there. Never ONCE. Not weight related, anyway (of course, I've seen people in wheelchairs or otherwise incapacitated...but never any enormous folks rolling around, no).
Originally Posted By Mr X Oh, I've seen a fair share of big Asian folks (more now than ever...bad influence from the West I think)... But none in such severe shape they needed a cart.
Originally Posted By MinnieSummer I've read this entire thread since my last post and for some reason I couldn't get past my being insulted when one of the posts (TDLFAN I think) said that the no votes were coming mostly from typical tourists who go every few years. I've never been to any other Disney parks, its simply not in my budget but I have been to WDW over 100 times, 80 times since 1998, so I don't think of myself as a typical tourist. But my point is why would the term typical tourist feel insulting? It's the perfect example of how people can misinterpret what is being said or look at a word and consider it one way when someone else sees the same word and sees it entirely differently. Filthy, typical tourist, it all depends on how you look at it.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<DLFAN goes "above and beyond" for LP by taking time out of his international Park visits to photo-document new and interesting events, attractions, construction, and states-of-being of the Parks. Even if he's on a brief visit to Tokyo and only has one opportunity to experience a particular parade or water show, he does it with his camera to his face so that he can share it with us. And then he comes home, downloads, captions, and uploads. And writes an extensive post for the edification and enjoyment of LP readers to accompany the generous Epson photo show. His commentaries are informed, balanced, intelligently critical, and entertaining.>> I agree. Even though he thinks I'm ethnocentric Minnesotan with a frozen brain and blinders on; I think he is a great contributor to LP. But I still think he is Mr. Crankypants... ;-)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ Crum... my copy/paste didn't pick up the 'T' of TDLFAN. Oh well, what do you expect from a guy with a frozen brain?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Nice try. Factually incorrect.>> No, it isn't. I don't spend my time here attacking people. I'm sorry if you're so obsessed you feel that way. But if it makes you feel better, I'll just say you're a big poopie-head and move on.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Oh well, what do you expect from a guy with a frozen brain?>> Exactly what you deliver on a weekly basis to the good readers of LP.com, Trippy ... just that ;-)
Originally Posted By TDLFAN So much for this lousy poll. I love it when "TDLFAN" becomes the topic of a poorly recieved thread. Maybe I should change my name to "THREADWRECKER". What do you all think? ^^^trick question.
