Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/us/politics/20edwards.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09...rds.html</a> I've always liked John Edwards. His speeches on the poor move me and he's really the only politician willing to talk about such an important topic. But boy how love can cloud someone's judgment. Edwards looks pretty pathetic and disgusting in this latest article. The New York Times obtained the book proposal from former Edward aide Andrew Young who had claimed to be the father of Rielle Hunter's child. Easily the most appalling part is Edwards' promise to Hunter that they would get married after his wife died of cancer. They'd have a rooftop wedding with Dave Matthews Band playing. Seriously. While his wife has cancer. And he knew all along that the baby was his, but went to great lengths to deny it and got Hunter and Young to agree to say the baby was Young's. Wow. If they were giving out Ph.D.'s in being a giant creep....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Looks like he isn't running for public office anytime soon? He should have just run his girlfriend into a lake.... too soon?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "He should have just run his girlfriend into a lake.... too soon?" Try never. Edwards is classless enough. You too.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Yeah, but some of these cancer patients hang on way too long. You want to get on with your life, but damn. Hopefully Obama's death panels will help the process along so horny dudes like Edwards can move in with their mistresses.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 "He should have just run his girlfriend into a lake.... too soon?" Try never. Edwards is classless enough. You too.<< Edwards has much more class than Kennedy... For one John Edwards never killed anyone... I stayed out of the Kennedy threads out of respect for those who actually believe he was a good person... But if I had to choose someone with more class, it would be Edwards, sure he cheated on his wife who had cancer, but at least nobody got physically hurt or murdered due to his transgression, can you say the same thing for Kennedy?
Originally Posted By SuperDry William, would you say or imply the same things about Laura Bush, who also killed someone with a motor vehicle?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 William, would you say or imply the same things about Laura Bush, who also killed someone with a motor vehicle?<< Yes, but the circumstances are different, she didn't hide out for 12 hours until reporting it to the police... But yes, she did get unfair treatment just like Kennedy did... I guess it pays to have money..... If you or I killed somebody with our vehicle, we'd be serving time for it, whether it was an accident or not...
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I stayed out of the Kennedy threads out of respect for those who actually believe he was a good person...*** He sure did a lot of good for largely in-grateful folks like yourself. But you probably already knew that.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 ***I stayed out of the Kennedy threads out of respect for those who actually believe he was a good person...*** He sure did a lot of good for largely in-grateful folks like yourself. But you probably already knew that.<< I wish he would have done more for drowing secrataries....
Originally Posted By SuperDry Mr X, as an ex-constituent of Senator Kennedy, perhaps you could share your viewpoint as to how he was viewed by the people he represented, from either party.
Originally Posted By ecdc Wow. William takes a thread where liberals are complaining about John Edwards and turns it into how liberals are bad for liking Ted Kennedy. Priceless. I'll definitely have to remember this next time someone says liberals never criticize their own party.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Let's face it... Kennedy was probably drunk as a skunk that night. He did not hide anything. He undoubtedly woke up the next morning with a vague memory that something terrible happened the previous night. Alcoholic blackout? Yes. Intentionally hiding what happened? No. I think more than a few of us have had a night like that. Fortunately for most it did not result in an accident that killed someone. There but for the grace of God...
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "I think more than a few of us have had a night like that. Fortunately for most it did not result in an accident that killed someone." If we did have a night like that we would be on trial for manslaughter. He, on the other hand, was a Kennedy.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 William takes a thread where liberals are complaining about John Edwards and turns it into how liberals are bad for liking Ted Kennedy. Priceless. << All I am saying is in the grand scheme of things, what Edwards did was wrong, but it's his life... What he did effected nobody aside from his wife/his girlfriend and his illegitimate child... Kennedy on the other hand ended a life...So maybe what Edwards did, while insensitive and downright immoral, isn't so bad after all in the grand scheme of things...
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I've always found it interesting that the individuals who are so quick to dismiss the decades of service Kennedy brought to the Senate because of one unfortunate incident, completely forget that Laura Bush was involved in a similar situation herself. Even though neither drugs nor alcohol were involved, she nevertheless ran a stop sign and killed her friend who was driving the car she hit. Conservatives are so quick to jump on the Chappaquiddick death slam, but never drag Laura Bush into the same light. Both were unfortunate accidents, involving reckless behavior behind the wheel. However, Mrs. Bush is always given a free pass for her accident. Why not Kennedy?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I've always found it interesting that the individuals who are so quick to dismiss the decades of service Kennedy brought to the Senate because of one unfortunate incident, completely forget that Laura Bush was involved in a similar situation herself. Even though neither drugs nor alcohol were involved, she nevertheless ran a stop sign and killed her friend who was driving the car she hit. Conservatives are so quick to jump on the Chappaquiddick death slam, but never drag Laura Bush into the same light. Both were unfortunate accidents, involving reckless behavior behind the wheel. However, Mrs. Bush is always given a free pass for her accident. Why not Kennedy?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Conservatives are so quick to jump on the Chappaquiddick death slam, but never drag Laura Bush into the same light. Both were unfortunate accidents, involving reckless behavior behind the wheel. However, Mrs. Bush is always given a free pass for her accident. Why not Kennedy? << Did you read my post earlier in this thread where I remarked that she got special treatment as well? If people hail her as a hero after she dies, I will be making the same comments on here... Call me insensitive, but a murderer is a murderer and although they may redeem themselves later in life, the fact they killed someone should never be forgotten. But back to the original point of the thread.... Sen. Edwards, bad.....I would say he deserves a spanking but he may enjoy it...
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Mr X, as an ex-constituent of Senator Kennedy, perhaps you could share your viewpoint as to how he was viewed by the people he represented, from either party.*** Well, he takes his share of abuse from types like William of course (as does Congressman Frank, another prominent and polarizing figure), but for the most part he is very much respected and appreciated by Bay State residents both Democrat and other, I would say. Here's a couple of great Teddy stories that I feel illustrate the kind of compassion and commitment he had for his constituents... "The senator's commitment to children went beyond his own family." "For example, he met Jasmine Harrison at an inner-city school every week for four years to help her learn to read." "I loved the sessions, because they were fun. He would act out what was going on in the book, and add voices. And it, you know, it was something I looked forward to," Harrison said." AND "He's gone to the funeral of every soldier who's come home from Iraq in a casket, whether it's up in Massachusetts or at Arlington Cemetery. And it's hard. But he knows it pays respect for giving the last full measure that these young soldiers have given. And after he goes to that funeral, he goes up and visits the graves of his brothers," according to long-time Kennedy aide Melody Miller." <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/26/national/main5267991_page4.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...e4.shtml</a> So my attitude towards those who would poke fun at a horrible tragedy, one that the Senator fully admitted was the worst thing he'd ever done, is that there's a lifetime of dutiful atonement there if you would bother to look for it. Frankly I wonder if the haters feel they, personally, are better people than he was. I mean, to mock and judge like that, you must feel somehow morally superior I would say. As for me, I'm certainly not half the man nor half the patriot that he was, but here's hoping, someday. At least I have a role model.
