Originally Posted By A Foolish Mortal I just saw a video of the ride.... WOW!! I really think it should be moved over to DisneyWorld, or even the whole DisneySea park as Disneyworld's 5th park! That would be awesome.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I don't know where you would put such a ride, theme-wise. Some have suggested it in place of 20K, but the footprint for JTTCOTE is huge, because it's essentially a re-dressed Test Track. I don't think Disney should build a fifth park until they can sort out their current employment situation, among other things. It's already difficult enough keeping 55K CM's, and they're straining to maintain a quality workforce. Adding another park would only exacerbate matters.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Adding another park would only exacerbate matters. << Watch out you don't get Admin'd for using rough language.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I just saw a video of the ride.... WOW!! >> I'd love to know what makes people have this reaction from Journey. It certainly is a fun ride but beyond an incredible queue and load/unload area it just isn't that great an attraction IMO. Seriously lacking in AAs and the lava monster just doesn't have the impact of the Yeti. The climb out of the mountain is also too short a thrill.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Funny, I know I have not ridden, but from video footage, I fealt the same. It looks awesome on the exterior and the queue, but it does look like they could have put more in. But I am also in the minority for thinking the Subs are an overrated experience. Will I enjoy having them back? Sure. Are they PotC or HM quality? Not IMHO, but the new layover may be. I am looking forward to Journey when I eventually make it to TDS - But I am looking forward to Sinbad (dependent on the changes), Indy, the shows and TOT more.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I'd love to know what makes people have this reaction from Journey.>> Because not everyone has the same tastes? For instance, I know the majority of people love the Lord Of The Rings, but it does absolutely nothing for me. <<It certainly is a fun ride but beyond an incredible queue and load/unload area it just isn't that great an attraction IMO. Seriously lacking in AAs and the lava monster just doesn't have the impact of the Yeti. The climb out of the mountain is also too short a thrill.>> I agree that the queue is awesome. IMO, it's almost better than the ride itself. I don't mind if there is only the one AA, but I think a lot of the scenic effects in the ride are kinda cheesy; more befitting an amusement park dark ride than a signature attraction in a $3bil theme park. I don't recall.... is there any heat effect on JTTCOTE?
Originally Posted By leemac <<I don't recall.... is there any heat effect on JTTCOTE?>> Yup although it isn't always working.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss That's good to know (that there is a heat effect.) I also think the "escape" from the lava monster could stand some plussing. As my poor memory pictures it, it's mostly just a ride in the dark.
Originally Posted By leemac I just always think the lava monster looks weird. Like he is stuck on a stick. I've always thought that he lacks impact by his movements. Just rearing back and roaring. The Yeti is far more impressive and imposing. And there is nothing on the escape beyond the smoke. There isn't even anything on the re-entry tunnel. I just feel it doesn't seem like you are tunnelling. I appreciate it is tough to accomplish but it isn't clear enough that you are actually making those tunnels.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney <<I don't recall.... is there any heat effect on JTTCOTE?>> "Yup although it isn't always working." Sounds like the ice cave effects on Everest. Nothing like 85 degree Orlando warehouse temps to convince you that you're in the Himalayas.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I just always think the lava monster looks weird. Like he is stuck on a stick. I've always thought that he lacks impact by his movements. Just rearing back and roaring. The Yeti is far more impressive and imposing.>> I haven't seen the Yeti yet (other than on tv), but I agree the lava monster is rather limited in its movement. I won't fault WDI for that though; I would meerly say they have upped the ante with the Yeti. <<And there is nothing on the escape beyond the smoke. There isn't even anything on the re-entry tunnel.>> That's what I was saying about effects for the escape.... yoiu don't see anything but darkness, which is kinda lame. <<I just feel it doesn't seem like you are tunnelling. I appreciate it is tough to accomplish but it isn't clear enough that you are actually making those tunnels.>> I thought you weren't tunneling, but touring a bore made by the machine seen inside the caldera? I do think it would be better if the ride wasn't so smooth going through the tunnels up to the poiint of encountering the lava monster.
Originally Posted By A Foolish Mortal despite what you guys say, it still looks fun. you have to admit.
Originally Posted By A Foolish Mortal i mean, you have to admit, it still looks fun. there we go, i got it right.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I do think it would be better if the ride wasn't so smooth going through the tunnels up to the poiint of encountering the lava monster.>> Originally it wasn't supposed to be. However the OLC saw the tire burn (and considering how many active wheels there are on every vehicle) and got rid of the rougher ride. Journey burns through tires much quicker than Test Track and the torque on the transmission on the climb is intense too. Hence the lengthy shutdowns each year and the maintenance cost. It is still the most expensive attraction in any Disney park to maintain.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ More than Rocket Rods when they were operational? 1/2 , 1/2 serious.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Journey burns through tires much quicker than Test Track" Just to verify - they do use the redesigned better tires that Test Track uses, right? I've seen it mentioned on at least one Disney show on tv - the tires that last for a few months instead of just a week or whatever...
