Originally Posted By Doobie This topic is for discussion of the July 11 article: Fantillusion at Disneyland Paris at <a href="News-ID507280.asp" target="_blank">http://LaughingPlace.com/News-ID507280.asp</a>.
Originally Posted By kaa I've have fantillusion on dvd from tokyo disneyland and its one of the best street shows i've seen. I hope Disneyland has something like this for its 50th birthday. You did a good report and too bad they left some stuff out.
Originally Posted By ed-uk Great report - saw the debut on July 5th as well it was a fantastic sight and had very positive recption from the crowd some of whom were in position over 1 1/2 hours before the parade. 1 point Tinkerbell may well not be on skates in DLP because as well as Main Street being cobbled it also has tram tracks laid down the middle that go around the hub for the horse drawn trams so it would be dangerous if not impossible to skate in the dark. Looking forward to seeing the parade again in the near future - just so much to take init ned to be seen a number of times.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>It sounds like Paris imported a winner<< Almost any show or event from TDR *is* a winner, dlport sir, except for the Fantasy In the Sky fireworks which I find to be so MK...blah!
Originally Posted By Wolfjones For me, it´s very hard to accept that DLP is running a heavily edited version of the original TDL parade. Let´s face it, the main reason for the cuts is money - and this is, given the high admission prices, unacceptable, period. However, if they really cannot afford to run the entire parade, then they should raise the admission price. Most people coming to DLP have already spent a lot on gas, freeway toll, accomodation etc. A few bucks more won´t make any difference! (Have you noticed that there´s not even shower gel in the economy hotels at DLP, just to save a few pennies?) (have you ever seen a motel 6 without shower gel?)
Originally Posted By irishfan Thanks for the report...beautiful pictures! Also, thanks for explaining some of the reasons for the cutbacks...most of which make a lot of sense.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Let´s face it, the main reason for the cuts is money - and this is, given the high admission prices, unacceptable, period. However, if they really cannot afford to run the entire parade, then they should raise the admission price. >> High admission prices? DLRP is actually the cheapest of the four Disney resorts at present for a one day pass. It is even comparable to all of the big non-Disney theme parks like Alton Towers in England and Universal in Spain. The admission prices are almost identical. The floats were in a terrible state when they arrived. I saw them when they were first unloaded from the containers and some were simply unuseable. It would have been a waste of money to rebuild them from stratch. The overriding point is that the vast majority of guests are experiencing a new parade for the first time, one that is similar in length to MSEP, but with show modes and a storyline. Few people will even be able to make a comparison and surely it is better than simply scrapping it?
Originally Posted By barryb Thanks Leemac for the report and great photos. I've seen the parade in Tokyo and also have it on video but now really want to go to paris for the weekend and see this version for myself.... BarryB. <a href="http://www.barrybedford.com" target="_blank">http://www.barrybedford.com</a>
Originally Posted By Richard No shower gel in the budget hotels? We usually stay at the Newport or Sequoia but thought we'd try the Cheyenne just for a change this summer. Just how basic is it likely to be?
Originally Posted By Wolfjones Hi, Richard. I (but that´s only my opinion) would choose the Santa Fe - I think it´s absolutely superior to the Cheyenne (and it´s even a bit cheaper). I thought the Cheyenne was in poor shape during my latest visit in 1992, the Santa Fe made a much better overall impression (I actually stayed there).Hi,leemac. I agree with most of your points, and I´m happy they brought Fantillusion to DLP. I´m just one of those guys who´d rather spend more money for a Disney park than accept any cutbacks. Take my example with the shower gel or shampoo - we´re talking pennies here, really, and I´d be happy to pay the additional price if they only gave me my shampoo back Regards, wolfjones
Originally Posted By Wolfjones Just a corrction to my message above: my latest visit was, of course, in 2002, not in 1992. wolfjones
Originally Posted By Wolfjones Just a corrction to my message above: my latest visit was, of course, in 2002, not in 1992. wolfjones
Originally Posted By Wolfjones Just a correction to my message above: my latest visit was, of course, in 2002, not in 1992. wolfjones
Originally Posted By Wolfjones Just a correction to my message above: my latest visit was, of course, in 2002, not in 1992. wolfjones
Originally Posted By u k fan I have stayed in both the Cheyenne and Santa Fe and find the Cheyenne to be FAR superior to the Santa Fe. I couldn't honestly tell you about shower gel because it's never been high on my list of priorities, but the theming is far better executed at the Cheyenne. IMHO, the rooms at the Santa Fe could be at any hotel anywhere, but the Cheyenne just seemed to go that extra mile in immersing me in Disney Magic. I suppose I am the polar opposite to Wolfjones because I'm happy to have less thrills at a Value Hotel (no pool, toiletries etc.) if it means I can save a few pence to spend elsewhere. Why would I pay even an extra £5 for the privelige of shower gel when I can take my own from home anyway (and probably would)?!!!
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct <<,hoose the Santa Fe - I think it´s absolutely superior to the Cheyenne>> WHAT?!?!? are you for real! Santa Fe looks like low rent housing. pleee--aseee ... ick! x 2
Originally Posted By Wolfjones IMHO, the Santa Fe is beautifully themed, there are a lot of nice details - but I really don´t want to convince anybody, it´s just MHO (although I know a lot of people who like the Santa Fe and would never stay at the Cheyenne. But again: All a matter of taste). wolfjones
Originally Posted By Richard Thanks for sharing your experiences wolfjones and u k fan. I'm not really concerned about shower gel, I just wondered whether it reflected the general experience of staying at the Cheyenne. We thought the Cheyenne would be fun for our two young children, with the playground, pony rides and heavily themed rooms. wolfjones, I've walked around the Santa Fe grounds with my daughter and we enjoyed discovering all the artifacts. I know I'm in the minority but I also liked the minimalist look of the place. Less is more.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I know I'm in the minority but I also liked the minimalist look of the place. Less is more.>> That is the cool thing, everyone has a favourite and it makes no odds whether it is the cheapest or the most expensive. Disney hotels are eclectic enough for everyone to be different. I must admit I love the ditched flying saucer at the Santa Fe!!
