La Muerte de los puercos

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    Originally Posted By DAR

    <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090427/hl_time/08599189402900" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2...89402900</a>

    I guess one of these days we're going to have Stand-like flu virus spreading throughout the world. But the news needs something to report.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    What is a stand-like flu virus?

    I think this is worthy of reporting, seems it's spreading in Mexico, and causing deaths.
    Also, acording to the article, the WHO may declare this a pandemic which will affect the global economy further. If they allow political worries to keep them FROM declaring it a pandemic, and it spreads quickly, they will be to blame. So they are between a rock and a hard place.

    Personally, if it takes closing schools and closing the border to keep it from spreading further, I'm for it.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    From the article:

    "Moving the world to pandemic phase 4 would be the signal for serious containment actions to be taken on the national and international level. Given that these actions would have major implications for the global economy, not to mention the effects of the public fear that would ensue, there is concern that the WHO may be considering politics along with science. "What the WHO did makes no sense," says Osterholm. "In a potential pandemic, you need to have the WHO be beyond question, and (April 25) was not a good day for them." "
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    <<What is a stand-like flu virus?>>

    Ever read the Stand by Stephen King?

    And 20 people out of 300 million are affected by it. And they're saying that best remedy is Tamaflu and rest. In others how we've always treated the flu in this country.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Never read it.

    I realize it's not bad in the US yet, but seems to be more severe in Mexico. Could get worse, could just fade away, I guess we won't know until it happens. Meanwhile, I think it's worth reporting seeing that it has caused deaths in Mexico, even though it's causing a bit of a panic.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    I haven't had the flu in years, and personally, I don't want to get sick!!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Found a new article when I checked my e-mail. Seems the death toll in Mexico has risen to 149, and 40 cases so far found in the US:

    "WASHINGTON – U.S. officials advised Americans against most travel to Mexico on Monday as a swine flu virus that began there spread to the United States and beyond. With 40 cases now reported in the United States, President Barack Obama said there was reason for concern but not yet "a cause for alarm."

    Dr. Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention, said that so far the disease in the United States seems less severe than the outbreak in Mexico, where more than 1,600 cases have been reported and where the suspected death toll has climbed to 149. No deaths have been reported in the U.S, and only one hospitalization."

    Here's the link: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...wine_flu</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    Well it is more severe in Mexico probably because while our health care while needing fixing is preferable to anything in Mexico.

    And hey if takes out a member of a drug cartel then there's something positive.
     
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    Originally Posted By hopemax

    The potentially troublesome aspect of this one is the deaths are people not in the traditionally expected groups (children, eldery, infirmed) but healthy adults. Which leads to comparisons to the 1918 pandemic; in which the autoimmune response was so strong in healthy people that it destroyed their bodies.

    The differences between health care in Mexico vs here, make it hard to gauge the severity. Many Mexicans don't go to the doctor, so it is possible that many, many more people have been sick and recovered but are unreported and so the few cases of death represent anomalies. Or maybe there is something we receive in our diet, standard health care, immunizations, etc that are providing protection, so we are seeing milder cases here in the US.

    Or perhaps this is the start of something. The 1918 pandemic started out as a minor bug until it mutated into a more virulent strain.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    Swine Flu:
    <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-sherwood/swine-flu-survival-three_b_191459.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...459.html</a>

    Swine Fly:
    <a href="http://www.bbsradio.com/FCKeditor/images/uploads/Image/WhenPigsFly.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.bbsradio.com/FCKedi...sFly.jpg</a>

    Swine Flee:
    <a href="http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk/news/4310219.Truck_carrying_pigs_to_Malton_Bacon_Factory_overturns/" target="_blank">http://www.gazetteherald.co.uk...erturns/</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    All schools in Mexico are closed until May 6. They are taking precautions that our government is waiting to take, I guess because they've had deaths and we haven't.
    I'm overly cautious. I'd rather close the schools before the deaths start.
     
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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    just in on 5:00 pm news.. Biggest U.S. outbreak is NYC. Mayor Bloomberg as told anyone feeling sick..STAY HOME!

    great, NYC is only 3 hrs. from me!
     
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    Originally Posted By Sara Tonin

    I had a medical appt this morning and many of the clerks were taking the precaution of wearing masks and gloves. But then this particular medical office is within spittin' distance of the border. I would maybe be thinking the same thing if I worked directly with the public.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    What about if you were going to Disneyland? I wonder if their attendence will be affected.
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    I'll tell what kind of fever I have:

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grp3n_8VOZE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...3n_8VOZE</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By beamerdog

    lol! The guy in the gray jumpsuit with white zippers was great.

    Back on topic. Hand washing will be key in this. I had the flu last year and was given Tamiflu. It worked in bringing my fever down, but I was still sick as a dog (no pun intended) for at least two to three weeks. There was no way I could work. That will be the huge economic impact for the US and other countries if vital workers are out in large numbers.
     

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