Originally Posted By HokieSkipper What an amazingly unfunny joke. After February, there will no longer be evening EMH at DAK, depriving millions of guests from experiencing the beautiful park at night. What a JOKE.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt DAK is the most beautiful park. I guess this prevents the nocturnal carnivores from plotting how to eat the guests! I can just see the lions pacing about thinking "how am I gonna get off this rock"!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Jeeze. Seriously? It's like they've given up at even trying to make DAK into a full day experience.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper And this coupled with the Fantasmic! cuts and PI's closure? What the hell do they want people to do at night?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> What the hell do they want people to do at night? << They're hoping you chose to go to Universal and expecting them to entertain you.
Originally Posted By dshyates CityWalk is pretty rockin' in the evenings. They have this really cool karaoke bar called Rising Star, where you sing with a live band. It's very popular.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< What the hell do they want people to do at night? >>> They don't care. It's not as if guests are paying extra for EMH. They will sell exactly the same number of tickets and at the same prices as they did before.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Oh I know they don't care. But the chips and cuts will eventually add up, and they won't sell as many tickets.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>They're hoping you chose to go to Universal and expecting them to entertain you.<<< I really hope people do that. Maybe they expect us to Park hop?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Maybe they expect us to Park hop? >> Even then, they sure aren't providing a lot of variety. It's either Epcot or MK if you want nighttime entertainment.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Even then, they sure aren't providing a lot of variety. It's either Epcot or MK if you want nighttime entertainment.<<< Well, with Wishes, I'm entertained every night, so I'm good. ;-) In all seriousness, it really is limiting. It seems like they don't expect you to do anything at night. PI Refurb, we need you!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<PI Refurb, we need you!>> Meh, my expectations have gone down for this ever since the initial excitement. Sounds like it's just going to be more third party restaurants.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 not that it should have been the only reason to do this but does anyone know how well attended EMH evening hours were @ AK ? Let's fave it the decision always has to do with money - so either they feel they have to overstaff during that time for the few people there- or else they are planning on adding hard ticket options for things later at AK. I don't like either reason, just stating IMHO what is likely behind this.. as far as citywalk is converned- fine for adults, not as comfy for those with kids- which let's face it are a LOT of the people at WDW
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>not that it should have been the only reason to do this but does anyone know how well attended EMH evening hours were @ AK ? Let's fave it the decision always has to do with money - so either they feel they have to overstaff during that time for the few people there- or else they are planning on adding hard ticket options for things later at AK.<<< You can blame that on the lack of offerings it has...
Originally Posted By xrayvision "hey don't care. It's not as if guests are paying extra for EMH. They will sell exactly the same number of tickets and at the same prices as they did before." EMH may not sell extra tickets to the parks; however, EMH does sell WDW hotel rooms as it's still an incentive for WDW guests to choose WDW hotels for their lodging needs to enjoy the extra hours of park time not offered to non-resort guests. On the same token, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney started offering EMH as a Magic Your Way option, for an additional price (offered either to everyone for an extra charge, or charging just non WDW hotel guests to attend EMH to generate more revenue for keeping the parks open these extra hours). Disney Parks are already packaging some parades and fireworks into special ticket events offered after hours, and people (both resort guests and non resort guests) are buying tickets to attend these after hour Disney park events. And non Disney tourism industries are starting to charge for every single amenity (like airlines to Orlando now charging $15 for each notch you recline your seat back, unless you pay a premium price for unlimited seat reclining). So, why not sell EMH as a premium Magic Your Way ticket option (either charging everyone for EMH or charging just guests not staying at a WDW hotel).
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 They better realize if people have to spend evenings in the hotel, then electric usage will surge upward between tvs and a/cs cranking away.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< They better realize if people have to spend evenings in the hotel, then electric usage will surge upward between tvs and a/cs cranking away. >>> Different cost center in SAP. It's very unlikely that the person charged with bringing the park ops budget in line would be penalized for any increased utility usage at the resorts. Then the person that has to make resort decisions has to cut something somewhere else to cover the unexpected bump in utilities.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "like airlines to Orlando now charging $15 for each notch you recline your seat back, unless you pay a premium price for unlimited seat reclining" You're kidding, right? That sounds like some kind of Monty Python joke. Please tell me this is a joke.
Originally Posted By leemac It was Ops in the first place that drove EMH at DAK. It had been suggested that the park couldn't handle hosting an EMH without changes. Again it all comes down to poor menu planning at the park. You need to give folks a reason to be there - especially when you have three other theme parks on property that offer evening entertainment. There is nothing to compete with F!, IllumiNations or MK's parade/fireworks combo. So you have a park that had dining facilities that can really only coin in lunch traffic and a substantial number of attractions that are unworkable in the evening. To make EMH work they need to find a "hook" - preferably with exclusive entertainment. It didn't need to be Rivers of Light or anything with a high development cost - it just needed to be something marketable and that would drive interest. No-one was interested so I'm not surprised that EMH will be discontinued - I'd bet my bottom dollar that it isn't economically sustainable in its current form.
