Originally Posted By Doobie This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?ID=405" target="_blank">The Latest: Latest: 4 Year Old Dies After Riding Mission: Spac</a>
Originally Posted By CinderellaShanny I don't get it! First of all, a four year old on Mission Space? What the...I mean come on, I had to think long and hard to even put my 11 and 12 year old on it! I'm not saying the fact that he was four is the cause of the death. I am just shocked with this news. What in the world happened? I am in total shock over this! Shanny
Originally Posted By trailsend I totally agree, CinderellaShanny. My first thought was a four year old? I would never do that. I have ridden Mission Space twice and had to really talk to myself once that door shuts. A four year old is simply too young to comprehend what Mission Space is about. It is an intense ride meant for older children and adults. This is difficult to even imagine happening on a trip to WDW. So sorry.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer But who knows if this was the first visit for this family to a Amusement/Theme Park... The posted warning said a minimum of 44" (the kid was 46"), and the mother said he did not fall under any of the warnings posted on the attraction.... I have a problem with the ride opening up prior to the initial autopsy was done, and while the park is still gathering information about the accident (based on news reports). There is no known reason why this happened, and I think for the safety of the park goers, they should have brought in a third party to provide an independent set of eyes (or hopefully a team of eyes) to see if Disney missed anything in their inspecition of the ride, and its genetral operating procedures... Maybe all that is needed is a minor change in the warnings, or maybe an age limit, or maybe an adjustment is needed to the ride, and this could have been done in a week or so... Maybe I am just used to the California rules, where the ride is turned over to the PAR unit of DOSH and they have complete control until the inspection is finished, and then they say if the ride can reopen, and if any changes are neccessary.... So far, it has worked in California.. It is crazy that the rides that are moved within the State of Florida are regulated, but the Perminent rides have NO regulation.
Originally Posted By The Olds Family How sad for the family to loose a child on a vacation to disneyworld. I would never take my child on that ride at that age, but I understand how children can persuade their parents that they will be ok and they aren't scared and they REALLY want to ride it so they can feel like a big kid. My kids are a bit older and even they were hesitant about going on such an intense ride(they ended up backing out and not riding it) so my thought is that disney should have an age restriction of 8 years old to try and avoid these little ones possibly thrashing around more than the older kids.
Originally Posted By missionspacesucks -Yet another reason to go to DL for the 50th instead of Florida... Nah. We got killer Thunder Mountains and Riverboats here. Stay away.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/11897901.htm" target="_blank">http://www.bradenton.com/mld/b radenton/news/local/11897901.htm</a> >>A tape recording of the 911 call shows Disney workers took more than two minutes before starting CPR on the lifeless child. A Mission: Space supervisor thought Daudi simply had passed out on the thrill ride. He didn't mention that the child was not breathing until a fire rescue dispatcher asked 1 minute 20 seconds into the emergency call. "Is he breathing?" the female dispatcher asked. "Is he breathing?" the male supervisor responded. "No. He's currently not breathing." A quick back-and-forth followed. "He's not breathing?" she asked. "No," the man responded. At 1 minute, 45 seconds, the dispatcher said, "OK, I need somebody to go over to the child, and I can give you directions to do CPR." At 2 minutes 40 seconds on the 911 recording, the ride supervisor told the dispatcher that CPR was being done by a CPR-certified employee. Reedy Creek Fire Rescue paramedics arrived at 4 minutes 30 seconds. When a heart stops, brain death begins within four to six minutes. Reedy Creek Fire Rescue spokesman Bo Jones confirmed that CPR did not begin until more than 2½ minutes into the emergency call. He said the sooner CPR is begun after someone stops breathing, the better the chances are for survival. If the ride contributed to Daudi's death, doctors said the trouble could be with the lungs, heart or brain. Dr. John Kuluz, an associate professor and expert in pediatric critical care and brain injuries at the University of Miami, said the mother's report of her son's rigidity suggests that the brain was a more likely suspect. "That episode of being rigid makes it sound as if the brain was having increased pressure," said Kuluz, who does research in children's brain injuries. He said different things could cause the stiffening, including a hemorrhage or bleeding in the brain that might be triggered by high G-forces and spinning. But, he added, it's unlikely that a healthy child suddenly would be stricken. Pediatric cardiologists said various abnormalities can trigger sudden death. However, they said, serious problems usually make themselves known before age 4.<< Sounds like some policies and procedures need to be addressed, and maybe some retraining needed!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN When all is said and done, we'll have a dead horse as well if we keep on beating this subject any more....
Originally Posted By trafficpharm Bottom line is 4 years old is too young for rides like that. I don't care if he met the height requirement or not. It's unfortunate, it's tragic, it's a crying shame that it happened. But parents need to use their heads when they walk into a ride where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a sign that says "WARNING."
Originally Posted By trafficpharm And before somebody rips me for "not understanding" the situation... I AM a parent, and neither me or my wife would DREAM of taking our 5 year old son on M:S.
Originally Posted By missionspacesucks And I would suggest you not going on this insanely dangerous ride too.
Originally Posted By trafficpharm >>And I would suggest you not going on this insanely dangerous ride too.<< I'm with ssWEDguy on this. You're kiddin' me, right? "Insanely dangerous?" Just a bit over the top, don't you think? I've experienced M:S numerous times and have never had any ill effects. In fact, I wanted to go back and ride it again multiple times. You're painting with a rather broad brush to say something like "insanely dangerous ride." Bottom line is this. Know yourself, know your limits, and only do the things YOU can handle. It's a little thing called "personal responsibility" which is sorely lacking these days. If you don't like it, don't ride it.
Originally Posted By EpcotRules >>>When all is said and done, we'll have a dead horse as well if we keep on beating this subject any more....<<< Amen, TDLFAN, Amen!! Not to mention a long time before Disney ever invests in anything new and different again, if ever!
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle All I feel is sympathy for this family. They weren't reckless, they didn't try to sneak him on when he was under the height limit and there is no age limit for the ride, so I wouldn't try to cast blame on them. I'm sure I wouldn't take a 4-year-old on it (I've never been on it and don't know what it's like, but it sounds fairly intense) but I'm also sure that a family is grieving the loss of their child due to a tragic accident. >>you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a sign that says "WARNING."<< Again, I've never been on it so I haven't seen the signs myself, but it seems a problem to me that you can hardly go on *any* ride that doesn't repeatedly warn you not to go on it with this affliction or another. I understand that this is for litigation purposes, but it seems to me it makes people less likely to heed the warnings when they're *really* needed - after all, every ride says it, how bad could it possibly be, right?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I've not heard anything new on the news since late Tuesday. What results from the autopsy?
