Originally Posted By Doobie This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=1841" target="_blank">The Latest: Latest: Gran Fiesta Tour Featuring the Three Cabal</a>
Originally Posted By wilbear64 I think this is a great idea that is way over due. I hope it will inspire more Disney touches to other coutries at EPCOT.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I am looking forward to the new ride, but why kill the name of it with "feat..." Just name "The 3 Caballeros' Grand Fiesta Tour" or "Grand Fiesta Tour" by itself, with 3D figures of the 3 Caballeros on the marquee.
Originally Posted By Dlmusic I don't like the new name because I don't think tour is a spanish word. In my opinion the attraction names at the World Showcase should all be in their native language.
Originally Posted By Dlmusic I just realized the above post was kind of stupid because of course, "feature the" is certainly not Spanish as well.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Why does Disney make overly long, complicated names for attractions these days? It's a mouthful, and one the guests are certain to get wrong many, many times. Why not call it "El Rio Del Fiesta" or something like that, or something with a bit more Spanish in it besides "Gran Fiesta"? I'm looking forward to the makeover though, it sounds thorough...not just an overlay. The one thing I hope they keep is the original theme song at the end. It's cute, and would still fit the theme.
Originally Posted By willthisbetheone I'll miss the old version. It was fun riding through an attraction that was from the 80s, which was my favorite decade for pop culture. The grainy film, the good-looking women in those pieces, soon to be gone. Well, I guess it was inevitable. At least I could buy one of the Epcot DVDs they have on here if I ever want to see it again. Sincerely, John Kilduff
Originally Posted By Dlmusic <<The grainy film, the good-looking women in those pieces, soon to be gone.>> You never know, they might be reusing some of that footage. I have no idea how extensive this attraction refit is.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN As long as they get rid of that annoying song... "Hola mis amigos...jada jada"
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Disney attractions have become very 'on the nose' with their storytelling over the years. They seem to assume that people are too stupid to get a more...esoteric title. How did guests find 'El Rio del Tiempo' all these years? And of course, it involves a story concept where 'something has to be solved' -- and you mean, it isn't interactive? Maybe guests will be able to throw small foam 'street tacos' at Donald to make him behave. Nothing can be left to chance. What would 'Pirates of the Caribbean' have been called today? 'The Pirate Adventure Through Grottos featuring Robotic Pirates'? No more sense of discovery, people, you have to tell people what they're going to do, and then let the 'experience' it. It's like all this 'magical' and 'dreams' -- remember when that was just part of the Disney theme park experience? Now it has to be sold. The 'magic' has to be shoved down people's throats... It reminds me of 'The Great Movie Ride' -- which had originally been called 'Great Moments at the Movies.' Apparently higher-ups felt that guests needed to know that it's a ride. Ok. And adding 'Disney's' to everything... 'Disney's California Adventure Park at Disneyland Resort' -- just so we don't confuse it with something else. And these asinine direct to video movies 'Brother Bear 2' 'Cinderella 3' et al. If something is good in a theme park, it really doesn't matter if it's called 'the' -- people will seek it out and do it. Afterall, what the heck does 'Starbucks' have to do with coffee? I suppose if it were Disney, they would have called them 'Coffee House.' Nothing can be left to chance. You can practically hear Disney Marketeers in the boardroom 'We need a title for this ride that people can understand.' 'Gran Fiesta Tour', someone suggests. 'But they need to know that the characters are in there.' [you know, because you wouldn't want a guest to be pleasantly surprised by anything] 'Okay, let's add 'featuring The Three Caballeros' [Hopefully, guests won't go in expecting to see Steve Martin, Chevy Chase and Martin Short]
Originally Posted By MPierce >> As long as they get rid of that annoying song... "Hola mis amigos...jada jada" << I believe I read somewhere that the song would remain. It would be sung be the 3 Caballeros near the end of the ride.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz ""I suppose if it were Disney, they would have called them 'Coffee House.'"" Isn't that what the coffe place is called at the Disneyland Hotel?
Originally Posted By mstaft TDLFAN- you are right about so many things regarding Disney- but not about removing this song. I'm still hoping to see it on a park CD one day! I LOVE IT!
Originally Posted By Dlmusic I have to say that while attraction titles have never been that brilliant (i.e. Alice in Wonderland, Jungle Cruise, Haunted Mansion Indiana Jones Adventure) recently the titles have become so obvious as to be irritating. Do we really need "The Seas with Nemo and Friends?" or "The Submarine Voyage featuring Finding Nemo?" Here are some new rethought titles: Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Featuring a Comical Cast of Animals Expedition Everest Featuring the Yeti Primeval Whirl: The Coaster That Spins However I would disagree with this <<And of course, it involves a story concept where 'something has to be solved'>> Isn't conflict center to plot? I can think of a lot of attractions where "something has to be solved": Pirates of the Caribbean - How to escape the pirates (as Walt said "Now you got into this mess by going down a waterfall now how do you suppose we get them out?") Haunted Mansion - How to escape the Stretch Room and one could argue the whole attraction is about trying to leave the mansion itself. Snow White's Scary Adventures - This attraction is entierly about escaping the Witch's clutches. Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin - Escape from the weasels. Malestrom - The trolls certainly create conflict, albiet a rather uninteresting one. Now you might say that these attractions conflicts are more subtle than recent attractions. I would disagree with that in regards to Three Caballeros. I doubt there's going to be a 10 minute long preshow video describing that Jose and Panchito are looking for Donald. It's just a thread through the attraction. The Seas with Nemo and Friends ride just put in is like that and in my opinion the story is not that obvious and most guests just assume you're traveling through scenes from the movie. While I would agree the "something goes terribly wrong" plot is overplayed, I certainly do agree that attractions should have storylines.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "As long as they get rid of that annoying song... "Hola mis amigos...jada jada"" Aw, I love that song! Written by X. Atencio, the same guy who wrote the song for Pirates.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 What would be really a bonus for me, is if they used Donald's original voice in this attraction. I was very pleasantly surprised that they did this in Mickey's Philharmagic. Nothing against the current voice, but I just love Clarence Nash's Donald so much more. Maybe there is isolated dialogue from the original film they can use or something?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I don't really care what they call it. I'll probably still refer to it as the Mexican boat ride.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Do we really need "The Seas with Nemo and Friends?" or "The Submarine Voyage featuring Finding Nemo?" Here are some new rethought titles: Big Thunder Mountain Railroad Featuring a Comical Cast of Animals Expedition Everest Featuring the Yeti Primeval Whirl: The Coaster That Spins >>> Ah, but there's a difference between your suggestions and the ones actually being used: the newer Disney ones include references to other intellectual properties and not just descriptions of the attraction. It's all about synergy, don't you know?
