Originally Posted By mousermerf *floats in via a magical bubble* Fellow Disneylandians, Let us be glad, let us be grateful. Let us rejoicify that goodness could subdue, the wicked workings of you-know-who... Isn't it nice to know that good will conquer evil? The truth we all believe'll by and by. Outlive a lie for you and I... For no one mourns for old HISTA. No one cries "It won't return!" No one lays a lily on its grave. The good man scorns old HISTA. Through its lines, our children learned: what to miss, when you've only got one day. And Goodness knows old HISTA's lines were lonely. Goodness knows old HISTA's died alone. It just shows when you're old as HISTA, you're left only on your own.
Originally Posted By danyoung >memo to Disney: Circlevision 360 doesn't mean you show the same image on nine screens.< This is the biggest problem I had with the new Canada film. The old film was almost all 9-screen surround shots, with maybe one or 2 of birds flying. They really needed to get out and shoot some more surround stuff for the new movie, and they didn't - they just used some tricky editing to make it new, and it simply doesn't hold up for me. But I have to say that while I'm not wild about the inside references to Disney ("go to the golf ball and turn left"), the crowd seems to like 'em, so I'll let that go.
Originally Posted By HMButler1979 ""Pander to a bunch of nostalgic adults by ressurecting dead attractions rather than challenging yourself to do something new."" So they can crank out masterpieces like Tarzans Treehouse, Pooh, Rocket Rods, Superstar Limo, Mickey's face on a ferris wheel, and those new classic standards, Stitch's Great Escape and Monsters Inc Laugh Floor. THIS is why the fans have been winning at DL since the 50th. New=disaster/marketing/bomb/no creativity
Originally Posted By Hista98 I doubt EO will be around for 3 years. Given that almost none of the special effects are being put in and it is in ernest just the movie makes me beleive it is a cheaper quick instalment for a short run, if they meant it to be longer they would have installed the old effects. Plus I don't think it will be a big hit, I don't think its as good as people remeber it being.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Thanks, mousermerf. Now I don't think I'll ever be able to listen to that the same way again. : )
Originally Posted By Ohana <<So they can crank out masterpieces like Tarzans Treehouse, Pooh, Rocket Rods, Superstar Limo, Mickey's face on a ferris wheel, and those new classic standards, Stitch's Great Escape and Monsters Inc Laugh Floor.>> Though not as famous as your mentions, i'd like to add that other creative masterpiece in recent years that has been duplicated - the wet marble ball in TL and Flik's running garden hose in DCA. Incredible!!
Originally Posted By monorailblue And why not add Tuck 'n Roll's Drive 'Em Buggies, Flick's Fun Flyers, Heimlech's Chew-Chew Train (which, if twice as long, would actually be OK to me), and Francis' Lady Bug "Sit there and do nothing" Boogie? Stunning masterpieces of off-the-shelf magnificence!
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight <<So they can crank out masterpieces like Tarzans Treehouse, Pooh, Rocket Rods, Superstar Limo, Mickey's face on a ferris wheel, and those new classic standards, Stitch's Great Escape and Monsters Inc Laugh Floor>> I'm not saying thits to start anything and I"m not being sarcastic when I say this either, but, do youthink that we would feel the same way about those rides had we grown up with them like we've done with Mr.Toad, Peter Pan, Snow White and Pinocchio? I wonder if we had grown up with those rides, as kids are doing today we might have a different view on them. Does that make sense? Maybe the kid's today will grow up and dislike when Disney yanks or changes any of them. Just a thought. What do you think or am I way out there on my thoughts?
Originally Posted By danyoung Lady S., I think you've hit the nail on the head. It's all about expectations, and the fact that we want every new attraction to be an E ticket home run. I always thought Superstar Limo was a nice little C ticket, but obviously I was in the minority. I've always wondered if DL could have even survived if there was in internet back in the 50's, and everyone could get together and trash what they didn't like.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight Well, I just thought ,what if they put in those classic rides now? What would we think of them today? Those other ride's seem like our classics used to seem to us, but only in today's way. We are just looking at things through adult's eyes now. Make sense? It was just a thought I had.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight But thank you Danyoung, for understanding where I was comming from.
Originally Posted By Manfried danyoung said, "ve always wondered if DL could have even survived if there was in internet back in the 50's, and everyone could get together and trash what they didn't like." I doubt if Disneyland would've survived. Every business that becomes a legendary business has to be started at the right time with the right person. That right person was Walt and that right time was 1955. Disneyland turned into a magical place in 1959 when subs and Matterhorn opened. It became legendary in the early sixties with Tiki Room, and beyond legendary with Lincoln, Small World, Pirates and Haunted Mansion.
Originally Posted By mousermerf The problem is that Disney themself set the bar high. It started with rides like Pirates and Haunted Mansion - then they built Epcot. Epcot didn't open with anything off the shelf, spinner, etc. It had attraction after attraction with massive complex show scenes, special effects, and full immersion into a theme, contained in massive show buildings which reflected a thematic statement. If they couldn't do something amazing, due to budget, they simply didn't do it. That's why Epcot ends abruptly in some places and why there are plots of land that were intended to be filled. Going back to spinner, minor dark rides that are really just dressed up carnival rides, etc.. all looks cheap after all that. They made new ride systems for anything they wanted at Epcot - they proved they could do it. They didn't overlay anything onto an off-the-shelf ride system. They kept that trend for a while. The had unique expensive themed rides at MGM and AK and certainly TDS. It was DCA where things went south and the only unique system was Soarin. Then ride after ride from then on was something dinky and carnival-like.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "...and Francis' Lady Bug "Sit there and do nothing" Boogie?" It's a lot more fun if you do jazz hands on it and dance to the music! I did that with my friends one quiet evening, and we had a great time on it. Since it was so quiet, we ended up going on it three times in a row (getting off and running back through the queue before it started up again) and we were cracking up the whole time. I'm pretty sure the CM thought we had stopped by the Cove Bar on the way (which we hadn't), but it was great anyway.
Originally Posted By Ohana the rides in Fun Fair are indeed fun for my kids (under 7) but my sarcasm above was directed at the wet marble, FAR from any thought as an attraction.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight *looks at ohana in shock* Does thou knock the Orb of knowledge? The Ball that knows it all? The, I think I'll just wash my hands here sphere? ;-) Whata concept huh? LOL
Originally Posted By mousermerf Was at DL/DCA today.. and my friend commented on the marble.. and how neither of us understands why people like it so much.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight I get that it would be fun for kids, but it grosses me out. Other than that it's ok because it's in TL.
Originally Posted By mousermerf MK has a marble too.. but a much nicer one with a map of the galaxy carved into it.
