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    This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=72787" target="_blank"><b>Latest: JHM: Princess and the Frog inside jokes</b></a>
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    <p style="padding-left: 30px;"><i>... as Mama Odie is quickly digging through a pile of magical objects during &ldquo;Dig a Little Deeper&rdquo; &ndash; the lamp from &ldquo;Aladdin&rdquo; gets tossed to one side.</i></p>
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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    I noticed the floats!
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I suspected something in the background at the masquesrade ball, but was unable to spot anything significant beyond a mermaid costume that probably wasn't all that much like Ariel.

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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    Almost forgot: I did spot Musker and Clements in the parade.

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    Originally Posted By BrnardM

    Haven't seen the movie yet, so even more than the inside jokes I was floored to read that Dr. John was on the sountrack! Well done Disney!
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    Didn't he also do something for the live action 101 Dalmatians soundtrack? Maybe Cruella deVille??
     
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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    My DD's said they saw a character from Cinderella at the Ball.
     
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    Originally Posted By ToonKirby

    >Didn't he also do something for the live action 101 Dalmatians soundtrack? Maybe Cruella deVille??<

    Yes.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    There were a couple other things that I saw, but I'm not sure if I was just imagining them.

    When the fireflys are directing the way to Mamma Odie's, there's a shot where they weave their way between two dew covered dandelions. It appears to be the exact same framing and movement as one of the shots from the Nutcracker Suite portion of Fantasia, but with the sea of fireflies replacing the farie's dust trail.

    Just after the credits started, there was a shack in the bayou with a rocking chair on the porch and a little skiff tied up next to it. As the frogs float by, it looks almost exactly like the one at the beginning of POTC, but without the old man in the chair. The frogs then ride the lillypad down a little drop. My mom and I both caught that, so we're thinking it's intentional.

    There was a shot in the song to Evangaline that looked a lot like Kiss the Girl. I don't know if it was intentional or just a coincidence, since they are both love songs that take place in the bayou, but there's a chance.

    There's a shot when Louis sticks his head though some Spanish moss (the creepy grey stuff that dangles off the branches of trees in the bayou), and holds it to the side like pig tails. Paired with the crazy expression on his face, he looks a lot like Madam Mim. I think it might have just been a coincidence, but I had a good chuckle over it.
     
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    Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs

    I, too, caught the POTC-esque reference...I was even expecting for the frogs to over a second "drop"...
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    We all saw the bayou shack from PotC during the end credits...
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    When the random hunters showed up, that first shot reminded me of the opening shot from Pete's Dragon. I don't know if they were intentionally supposed to mirror the Gogans (they are similar characters, but there is little reason that they would want to refrence them), but that was my initial reaction.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I saw the Carpet tonight. Didn't spot Roy Disney, though.

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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I am pretty sure I saw Madam Leota on a tombstone in the graveyard scene.
     
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    Originally Posted By lesmisfan

    "There's a shot when Louis sticks his head though some Spanish moss (the creepy grey stuff that dangles off the branches of trees in the bayou), and holds it to the side like pig tails. Paired with the crazy expression on his face, he looks a lot like Madam Mim. I think it might have just been a coincidence, but I had a good chuckle over it."


    I noticed that one as well! i thought i was the only one! i am thinking it was intentional.

    "Just after the credits started, there was a shack in the bayou with a rocking chair on the porch and a little skiff tied up next to it. As the frogs float by, it looks almost exactly like the one at the beginning of POTC, but without the old man in the chair. The frogs then ride the lillypad down a little drop. My mom and I both caught that, so we're thinking it's intentional."

    I was sad i was the only one in my family that noticed that!
     
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    Originally Posted By lesmisfan

    "When the random hunters showed up, that first shot reminded me of the opening shot from Pete's Dragon. I don't know if they were intentionally supposed to mirror the Gogans (they are similar characters, but there is little reason that they would want to refrence them), but that was my initial reaction."

    glad i am not the only one that grew up on the older classic disney films. That was my first reaction as well.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I saw the movie again & spotted Carpet this time. Didn't see Walt, though--too much stuff to look at.
     
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    Originally Posted By xrayvision

    I liked Princess and the Frog (PATF) and thought that I saw odes to the following Disney and Pixar films, as well as Disney park rides, while watching the film.

    1) Pinocchio -The girls' wishing upon a star, several times in the film, seemed like a nod to Pinocchio.

    2) Finding Nemo - In PATF, The fireflies starting flying together , creating a long and wide, sparking lit train, which resembled the current that Crush and other turtle friends used to travel.

    3) Tiki Room - In one of the songs, the introduction of the spirits from beyond were presented with tribal masks, and the facial movements (opening and closing eyes to drum beats) looked similar to the totem masks' animation in the Enchanted TIki Room show at DLR.

    4) Lion King and Little Mermaid - As already mentioned, in the parade scence - Odes to Lion King (presented in a costume that a guys pulls off his lion costume hood off of his head, and it looks like Simba), Little Mermaid float.

    5) Pocohantas - Madame Ode facial features, voice and sensibilities resembled Pocohantas' willow tree character.

    6) Tarzan - Madame Ode's home, an old boat stuck in a tree, looked like Tarzan's tree home which included portions of a boat placed up in a tree.

    7) Haunted Mansion - Songs that included the Witch Doctor and spirits, showed graveyard scenes that resembled the Haunted Mansion ride's graveyard scene.

    8) Hunchback of Notre Dame - In one of the witch doctor's scenes, the witch doctor called upon the evil spirits and they appeared floating above around him in judgement, which looked like Frollo's Hellfire scene, where Frollo is being judged by spirits, from Hunchback of Notre Dame. Yet, the more cartoony than gothic design of the spirits more resembled the gods in Hercules.

    9) Hutchback Reference #2 - There were a few scenes when Tiana would go look beyond the concrete mansion patio ledge, and sings as she wished upon the stars and watched things fly from the ledge looked like Quasimoto looking off from his concrete ledge and singing towards the skies.

    10) The Sword and the Stone - Madame Ode was in her tree shack made from a boat stuck in a tree, and turned one of the characters into other life forms (maybe Louise?). But, the scene looked similar to Merlin and the villianess scene where were changing into different forms in the Sword and the Stone.
     
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    Originally Posted By xrayvision

    One final ode - Beauty and the Beast - the transformation of the Princess and the Frog characters resembled the ending transformation of the Beast into a man in Disney's Beauty and the Beast.
     
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    Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes

    To FerretAfros and xrayvision and all,
    You aren't hallucinating. This film was chock full of intentional tributes to just about everything Disney animation had done in the past, and as you noticed, even a few theme park attractions. Every time one of those popped up on screen, it felt like a poke in the forehead. No kidding, I was exhausted by the time the movie was over, and I was thinking "What the **** was that all about?" I think it was a very good film, but honestly, all those pokes in the forehead took away a little bit of the movie from me.
    I didn't catch the Carpet, Musker and Clements or the Sword in the Stone and Pocahontas tie ins, but I think I caught almost everything else you listed.
    I'll add a couple of more:
    For a split second (as most of these tributes only lasted a split second) Louis was doing an imitation of the Croc in Peter Pan when he was up to his waist in the swamp and flicking his fingers. A second one was that the 'random hunters' were definitely (I believe intentionally) drawn as Ward Kimball would have drawn them - which was not too good as the rest of the characters in the same scenes weren't drawn in a Ward Kimball style.
    That's my biggest knock against the film (besides being asked to play "Where's Waldo" for an hour and a half). I didn't mind the changes of artistic style throughout, and there were far many more than any other animated film I've seen. In fact I liked that. It showed a lot of boldness and creativity. But when they mixed diametrically opposite artistic styles in the same frame or scene, which they did more than once, it kind of had me looking at the artists and not the art. In other words, I stopped watching the movie and started watching how it was constructed, and not in a positive way.
    Well, that's why I give this three stars out of four.
    I'm no animation fanboy. I'd bet there were a lot of references to Disney animated films I didn't even bother to see (Black Cauldron, anyone?). But I spent so much of my youth reading and rereading The Art of Walt Disney so I couldn't miss what was going on. What I wonder is, what about the 99% of the public that isn't as big of a Disney geek as I am? Did they catch 1% of the tributes? Did they feel disrupted as I did without knowing why? I'd really like the answer to that second question.
     

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