Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest-ID-82125.asp" target="_blank"><b>Latest: Many More MyMagic+, MagicBand and FastPass+ Details Available </b></a> <p>WDWMagic.com has complied details of how MyMagic+ will work when it's fully operational.</p>
Originally Posted By TP2000 My head is spinning trying to figure out how this is better, or what Disney has to gain by doing this. And you only get 3 Fastpasses per day, and only one park per day? And you have to log on 60 days prior to your visit to snap up all the best E Tickets quickly lest you are left with Fastpasses for Teacups, Speedway and Winnie The Pooh? I had imagined that this MyMagic+ thing could work reasonably well in WDW with their heavy tourist demographic and pre-planners, but even with that group this seems to be a huge headache filled with rules for very little payout. And if they tried this at Disneyland? There'd be riots on Main Street USA that would make the Yippie invasion of Disneyland in 1969 seem quaint. What is the point over regular Fastpass? Why so restrictive? Where is the fun? And who on earth actually thought this was a good idea worth investing in?!? How the heck does Disney spin this into a reasonably good idea? So many questions for this, even though technically the questions are all now answered. Yikes. This could be a PR disaster for Disney on a truly global scale.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I am wondering if WDW is "reading" acceptance on 2 guest responses: that feel superficial or artificial: 1. Those that have tried it ,are giving positive feedback because they are participating in something that we aren't. So they are more special and that is a wonderful feeling . AND they probably love it because they are in different lines and they have gotten to schedule some of their plans in advance. THey also are eligible for priority FP Magic and can use their regular entry for normal FP, thereby receiving double the fun. I know Disney denies this but many are reporting they have doubled up with FP during testing. So of course they think it is great. 2. Those that want the latest technology no matter how the costs are hidden similar to the APPLE / Starbucks success stories.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt OK, so I just read the article and my head is spinning trying to comprehend why so many people here think this program is complicate. All it does for now is allow people to book a single packaged "experience" per day in a single park, which includes 3 Fastpasses, at no additional cost. The daily packages can be be booked 60 days in advance. What's so complicated about that?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>What's so complicated about that?<< On the surface, nothing. But when certain attractions become FP+ only (I'm guessing TSMM, Soarin', Storytime with Belle), and they have huge popularity, getting on your favorite attraction can be as difficult as getting 7:00 dinner reservations at Le Cellier. Most of the time I don't even know what park I want to be at which day, let alone which attractions I must do. I suppose in part this system will help iron out those details in advance, but it's also kind of nice to relax on vacation and see where life takes you. And having spent my last several WDW vacations (and several upcoming ones) doing the runDisney races, there's really nothing less appealing to me than more advance planning. Coordinating a regular trip is tough; doing it for a roomful of people who live in completely different parts of the country is even more difficult. Now, mix in several extremely early wake up calls (circa 2:30am), and months of training to focus on, and suddenly getting a FP for Splash Mountain doesn't seem like such a high priority, even within the amount of time you've dedicated to planning a WDW vacation. I realize that most guests won't have this added crunch on their vacation, but it's a major part of my trips (and in large part the reason I take the trips) and I'm sure other guests have their own issues. Once you start creating a specialized system that's one-size-fits-all, it quickly becomes apparent that everybody has different needs
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I suppose in part this system will help iron out those details in advance, but it's also kind of nice to relax on vacation and see where life takes you." Then don't use the system. As far as I know enrollment isn't a requirement when booking your vacation. "Once you start creating a specialized system that's one-size-fits-all, it quickly becomes apparent that everybody has different needs" It isn't one-size-fits-all though. If I understand the article correctly you punch in a bunch of information and the system generates three package options and you choose the one of those three. Presumably demographic data from your group such as age, gender, and ride preferences (thrill rides vs family rides?) will be used to generate a custom "experience".
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>As far as I know enrollment isn't a requirement when booking your vacation.<< It's not, however your vacation will be negatively impacted if you don't use it. As has been said, certain things will be FP+ only, meaning that without using the system you won't be able to experience it. Additionally, you'll be waiting in standby lines that are artificially longer than they should be, because every single attraction will be taking FP guests. So it's not as easy as opting out and having the same vacation as always; your trip will be actively impacted by your lack of using the new system
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Additionally, you'll be waiting in standby lines that are artificially longer than they should be, because every single attraction will be taking FP guests." FP already has the effect that you described, so I don't see how these reserved FPs will make the situation any worse than it already is. The only thing that might impact a casual visitor is that a number of return slots for a given attraction will be reserved up to 60 days in advance. I suppose that having to wait in a standby line for your favorite attraction is a trade off if your primary purpose for visiting a theme park resort is to relax and "experiences" aren't your thing. What I wish is that every FP enabled attraction had FPs available from centrally located terminals in the park instead of only at or near attraction entrances. It's weird that there is a central wait time board but no place in the park where I can see a list of return times for current FP distributions. A great deal of time and energy gets wasted trekking to an attraction only to find out that the current return time is late in the evening or there are no FPs left. Maybe the new kiosks can be set up to do this.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub For one example: Recently WDW completed changed the audience reserved seating for dinner packages at Fantasmic in the HS. Instead of it taking over 1/3 of the seating area it has been moved to take over almost 2/3rds and all of the desired sections. That is a big noticeable change that has impacted me already. It just takes the fun out of it and the castmembers were downright mean about steering the low life to the non-reserved sections. Hans do you truly believe there is no cost reflected in the price increases of food tickets and lodging at WDW for this billion dollar Magic?
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Oh well I am planning flights and hotels to Universal for the Fourth and NOT going anywhere near Disney property. i just recently went to Las Vegas to see the new Michael Jackson ONE Cirque performance. I really don't need to spend any money at Disney to find the magic.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "For one example: Recently WDW completed changed the audience reserved seating for dinner packages at Fantasmic in the HS. Instead of it taking over 1/3 of the seating area it has been moved to take over almost 2/3rds and all of the desired sections." That sounds frustrating, and I see your point. Still, I think it's inevitable that Disney's parks are shifting from being an attraction like a local zoo or aquarium where you wake up on Sunday and say, "Let's take the kids to Disneyland today", to something a lot more involved. When you stop and think about it, for better or for worse, Disney Parks has been headed in this direction for a couple of decades now. "Hans do you truly believe there is no cost reflected in the price increases of food tickets and lodging at WDW for this billion dollar Magic?" I have no idea Mickeymouseclub. Disney raises prices even when the economy is in the toilet and nothing significant has been added the parks for decades.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Well that is true. Everytime a friend asks about the Free Dining Deals I just laugh and say Nothing is ever Free at Disney.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>FP already has the effect that you described, so I don't see how these reserved FPs will make the situation any worse than it already is.<< The difference is that there won't be any other options. As it currently works, if you don't want to wait in a standby queue for a FP attraction, you can go to a nearby non-FP attraction and get in line with everybody else. With FP+, every single attraction (and some things that weren't formerly considered attractions, like parades, fireworks, and meet & greets) will have FP. There's simply no avoiding it, and even knowing the 'tricks' to the system will be very difficult, given how widespread these changes will be
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt '"With FP+, every single attraction (and some things that weren't formerly considered attractions, like parades, fireworks, and meet & greets) will have FP. " This is news to me. I was unaware that every attraction in the park would be on the FP system.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 This is news to me. I was unaware that every attraction in the park would be on the FP system.<< When they are adding tens of thousands of additional Fast passes to the park every day what did you think was going to happen? Sucks to be the family that has to use their Fastpass on a lame ride or sad excuse for experience... This may work for Disney for a year at most then it will self destruct in their faces...
Originally Posted By tashajilek This topic is reminding me that I am now 6 months away from arrival. Too bad for me I didn't wake up at 3 am my time to try and get the good restaurants. What should I eat Six months from now?
Originally Posted By tashajilek Also, this MyMagic might last a long time. As long as the parks are busy and suckers continue to pay up to $ 500 a night for their rooms they wont care.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "When they are adding tens of thousands of additional Fast passes to the park every day what did you think was going to happen?" There was nothing for me to think since I didn't know that ALL attractions were going online with FP. Now I better understand the alarm people are expressing.
