Originally Posted By TP2000 CuriouserConstance >>"...bikini clad California girls with daisy dukes and bikinis on top. West coast represent now put your hands up! *echo* West coast west coast."<< Constance, you should be happy to know that I was just running an errand and fiddling with the radio dial at a stop light when this song came on. Normally I would have just scanned right past that station, but those lyrics instantly lit up my brain cells and I thought "It's Constance's song!". Instead of turning the dial, I turned it UP!, and I have to say it's kind of a cute and catchy pop song. I enjoyed it, and thought of you the whole time! A perfect way to kick off a long Labor Day weekend if I do say so myself. Although I imagine Imane Boudlal wouldn't approve of those immodest lyrics from beneath her headscarve, I hope everyone here has a great holiday weekend! And thanks for the big laugh Constance, even if the payoff for me wasn't until a day later. HA!
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance lol TP glad to be of service. I'd do anything to make your holiday weekend brighter! You've been on my nice list ever since you told me my daughter's pictures from DL warmed the cockles of your heart, lol. I don't know if I'm particularly happy with being identified with that song though, LOL.
Originally Posted By TP2000 So.... It's been awhile, and this story went totally dark. The hotel union was scheduled to hold another protest/media event over this head scarve thing on Wednesday, September 1st, and the union announced that to the media. But that protest and event was cancelled at the last minute on Wednesday. And now it's been over two weeks and not a peep. Both the hotel UNITE Here Local 11 union and the CAIR islam group have been totally silent on this one. The young lady stopped being scheduled by Disney, so presumably she is no longer working at the hotel and is in limbo. I take it this was yet another bizarre publicity stunt by the union and this now fades into oblivion? And the Cast Member does what exactly? Wait for months for her court case and hearing to be heard? Odd.
Originally Posted By hbquikcomjamesl If I'm looking at the right sketch, it does look like a decided improvement over the previous iteration. The previous iteration looked, in a word, ridiculous. And it looked like an overt attempt by somebody who has a problem with Muslims in general, and observant Muslims in particular, to drive the woman out. This, by contrast, looks like a good-faith attempt to accommodate her. At this point, if she doesn't find it acceptable, the obvious question should be, "why?" Not "why" in a confrontational sense; more in a sense of "What -- specifically -- is still wrong with it, and how can it be corrected?" But at any rate, I stand by my statement that in the show that is Disney, she is a WAITRESS, playing the role of a WAITRESS. She is not an African-American woman being asked to portray Snow White; neither is she a Scandinavian-American woman being asked to portray Tiana. (Or a non-Asian being asked to portray Mulan.) And certainly, given that Islam is only slightly younger than Christianity, Muslims have been living in Europe and America since "once upon a time." Then, too, as a "nation of immigrants," strength in diversity, and the notion that uniformity amounts to blandness and stagnation, has been a core American value, even given our long history of discrimination against ethnic and religious minorities.
Originally Posted By da_tick The info did seem to stop, it's kind of hard to comment on something that happened over 2 wks ago Isn't the court date set for 2 months from now? Hey, but it's going strong over on another site, over 30 pgs long Hope everything works out amicably for both parties.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "And the Cast Member does what exactly? Wait for months for her court case and hearing to be heard? Odd. " She might, gasp, actually want her day in court!
Originally Posted By TP2000 Sure, of course. But what does she do for money? How does she pay the bills for the next few months now that she protested herself out of gainful employment? Hopefully she's still living at home and doesn't have rent and bills and groceries to pay for.
Originally Posted By TP2000 So... another week passed since the cancelled protest in early September, and another pay period where Imane didn't get a paycheck. And still absolute silence on this from Unite HERE Local 11 and the Council on American-Islamic Relations. So very odd.
Originally Posted By da_tick Since she is probably still a union member maybe they are paying her with a reduced paycheck. typing bump will keep this at the top since there isn't any verifiable news
Originally Posted By pleiades357 How can you know it was a "knee jerk" reaction? a lot of people may have considered the situation thoroughly and been unhappy with her dispute of policies understood and abided by, by most and the attempts some make to demand others bend to their particular circumstances. A salon I know of had a very heavy worker who wanted everything redesigned to fit her. She got a lawyer and cost them a lot of money arguing about it. Anger and outrage, over reacting, but knee jerk, not necessarily. I agree, I suspect she is enjoying being the poster child. She would not have suffered any lost of wage or status through the response Disney suggested. If every culture and religion can set their polices, imagine...
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<hbquikcomjamesl: If I'm looking at the right sketch, it does look like a decided improvement over the previous iteration. The previous iteration looked, in a word, ridiculous. And it looked like an overt attempt by somebody who has a problem with Muslims in general, and observant Muslims in particular, to drive the woman out. This, by contrast, looks like a good-faith attempt to accommodate her. At this point, if she doesn't find it acceptable, the obvious question should be, "why?" Not "why" in a confrontational sense; more in a sense of "What -- specifically -- is still wrong with it, and how can it be corrected?">> Well, from all the images I've seen, her original traditional head covering was a LOT more appropriate than any of the versions offered by the company. It was very conservative and drew very little attention. The other versions, on the other hand, were much more noticeable and would have made her stand out more. The whole issue seems to be just a situation of Disney trying to assert control where it wasn't needed in the first place.
Originally Posted By LuLu Disneyland has agreed to allow a company intern to wear her religious headscarf at work, according to a Muslim rights group that intervened after the woman was told she would have to work in the stockroom. <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/disneyland-allows-park-worker-to-wear-religious-scarf-at-work-.html" target="_blank">http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...rk-.html</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt This is all making my head hurt. It's obvious that the reporting on these stories is a mess. This line from a resort spokesperson was very telling: "Walt Disney Parks and Resorts has a long history of accommodating a variety of religious requests from cast members of all faiths with more than 200 accommodations made over the last three years.... And this instance was no different." I'm thinking that the local media has some blame in not carefully exploring the Imane Boudlal story a bit further. There's something not quite right there.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Well, from all the images I've seen, her original traditional head covering was a LOT more appropriate than any of the versions offered by the company." I tend to agree. It was just plain white. And the uniform has plenty of white in it. "It was very conservative and drew very little attention. The other versions, on the other hand, were much more noticeable and would have made her stand out more." The first one we saw was awful. The second one we saw looked fine to me. "I'm thinking that the local media has some blame in not carefully exploring the Imane Boudlal story a bit further." The media was lazy? There's a shocker.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Assuming that the park's representative is telling the truth that her division has record of 200 exceptions made to its costuming rules in recent years to accommodate religious requests only reinforces that there's something fishy about the whole Imane Boudlal story.
Originally Posted By velo <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/30/disneyland-hijab-dispute-_n_745610.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...610.html</a> From today.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Thanks for posting. Unfortunately the Boudlal case is still pending.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo That Huffington post article talks about a beret, but the picture is of the ridiculous bonnet. Odd. I wonder what the beret looks like. But again, I have to think letting her wear her plain white head covering should've been perfectly fine. What did that stupid bonnet add to make it more acceptable? Seems rather pointless. Boudlal is pretty cute. I'm on her side now ;-).
