Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Latest.asp?I1=ID&I2=74879" target="_blank"><b>Latest: OrSen: Disney World limits use of onboard bus computers</b></a> <p>From <strong>Orlando Sentinel</strong>: <em>Walt Disney World has issued written orders and made software changes designed to ensure that navigational computers on the resort’s buses can’t be used while the vehicles are moving.</em></p>
Originally Posted By MPierce That's a good decision. I wonder how those drivers feel about having an on board spying system.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 If I'm not doing anything wrong I've no fear of people spying on me. But I pity the poor slob who spies on me, boy are they going to be bored.
Originally Posted By Roger55 "...designed to ensure that navigational computers on the resort’s buses can’t be used while the vehicles are moving." How much need is there to even have a navigational computer if you are NOT moving??? LMAO
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< If I'm not doing anything wrong I've no fear of people spying on me >>> So, can we put a webcam in your bathroom? Assuming of course you're not doing anything wrong in there.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost The tired old argument about "spying" on buses has never really shown itself to be accurate. Yes, it does run the risk that someone that blatantly violates the rules, will stand a better chance of being caught, but mostly it has helped and protected the drivers. How often have we seen threads that talk about how some of the "guests" go out of their way to find methods to get freebie's. In today's sad world more and more people are willing to sacrifice others to get something. In the municipal bus arena, the ratio of drivers saved over drivers caught is close to 10 to 1. Like I said, it's a sad world out there full of entitled, dishonest people. Big brother is watching, but that is not always bad. You would not believe the number of calls that I have received over the years from people with serious, career ending accusations against drivers. The rant, swear, cry, yell, speak of lawyers and carry on in unbelievable fashion. So I say, we will pull the surveillance video on the bus and investigate this immediately. The next thing I hear is a click as the call is disconnected. End of problem. Kind of makes one start to dislike humanity intensely.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones There's no expectation of privacy at work. I forget which court it was but they ruled that Metrolink's locomotive cameras were nice and legal. You can spy on your employees all you want while on the job while they are performing their duties.
Originally Posted By fkurucz FWIW, this is nothing new. Buses have had "status boxes" to keep tabs on the drivers as far back as the 1970's.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Wouldn't a webcam in the bathroom be considered Porno? << Around my house, it would be considered Friday night entertainment.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> The tired old argument about "spying" on buses has never really shown itself to be accurate. Yes, it does run the risk that someone that blatantly violates the rules, will stand a better chance of being caught, but mostly it has helped and protected the drivers. << That's always the contention of every company that openly spies on it's employees. My question however was not how the company feels about that, not how we feel about that, not if it's right or wrong, not if it is harmful or helpful, not whether it's morally or legally right, not whether it protects drivers or intraps them, not whether it is cost effective or a complete waste of assests that would be better used else where, not whether it's a violation of anyone's rights or not. My question was, I wonder how the WDW bus drivers feel about it being implemented after all the years Disney didn't use the system?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> If I'm not doing anything wrong I've no fear of people spying on me. But I pity the poor slob who spies on me, boy are they going to be bored. << Of course you don't have anything to be concerned about. Now tell me you wouldn't be the least bit offended if they recorded every move you made at work.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> There's no expectation of privacy at work. I forget which court it was but they ruled that Metrolink's locomotive cameras were nice and legal. You can spy on your employees all you want while on the job while they are performing their duties. << It wasn't posed as a legal question. It was posed as one of morale.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> FWIW, this is nothing new. Buses have had "status boxes" to keep tabs on the drivers as far back as the 1970's. << Just because something has existed that long means nothing other than companys consider it a useful tool for some purpose. I don't believe there was ever any inference that this was a new method being introduced to the industry.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Wouldn't a webcam in the bathroom be considered Porno? ,, No all the sites I visit like that are purely for artistic reasons.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss How id this get turned into a discussion about spying? There's no mention of cameras in Disney's buses, only that there is GPS tracking.
Originally Posted By TTA <<No all the sites I visit like that are purely for artistic reasons. >> Also accepted; Research (ala Pete Townshend)
Originally Posted By MPierce >> How id this get turned into a discussion about spying? There's no mention of cameras in Disney's buses, only that there is GPS tracking. << It's a computerized tracking system isn't it? Are am I mistaken.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Why is that a problem? It's not like they are looking at the driver and seeing if he's picking him nose or something. It's just tracking the bus. No different than an airplane being tracked by air traffic control.
