Originally Posted By dshyates Actually DisneyWatcher did say that they had been to the park. The question over whether they had been arose from a snide quip made suggesting they hadn't. And DW responded back with a snide answer. But DW has been there.
Originally Posted By jonvn "DisneyWatcher did say that they had been to the park." I don't believe I saw this person say that. Did you see this person there?
Originally Posted By dshyates No, but I remember the arguement well. I thiought it was rather silly as we had been argueing with disneywatcher for about 6 years at that point. She (I believe) has also stated since the arguement that they had been there, but go ahead and just focus on the snide comment where she said, "No, I have never been there" in as snide a tone as one can type.
Originally Posted By jonvn The thing is that because of things said, such as "it must have been terrible," that implies the person never actually was there. Based on the wording chosen by this person, and other comments made that indicated they had not been there, the question was asked if they had actually ever been there. This question was never actually answered in the affirmative. So, the assumption is that they have not, and are trashing the place simply to trash it.
Originally Posted By dshyates Actually they did answer, after much berating, and also gave an explaination as to why they made the original snide comment. Here is a comment from disneywatcher that leads me to believe that they have ridden SSL. (from july 17th, 2001) "I guess as an indication of my or anyone's different perceptions of things, or, more important -- certainly in my case -- the sense that DCA is such a weakling of a Disney theme park that everything within it has to be graded on a very generous curve, I've never been as disappointed with Superstar Limo as others have been. But I have to admit the insertion of more Disney cliches (or characters) may offset the original attempt to make DCA very hip and edgy (I've often wondered if Eisner's supposed desire to make the new park more to his wife's liking was one reason a more home-spun, Snow-White-and-lollipops approach was downplayed early on)."
Originally Posted By jonvn "I've never been as disappointed with Superstar Limo as others have been. " That is in direct contradiction to this most recent statement about how the ride "must have been." IT also does not state they were ever actually there. So, again, my belief at this point is that this person has not been there.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Actually DisneyWatcher did say that they had been to the park. << Yes, thank you. After all these years, it's beyond "duh" to even raise and argue the point. Sort of like the various, uh, oddballs who continue to defend DCA, perhaps no less fervently than those who personally dreamt up and developed the park.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher BTW, I first rode the tacky Superstar Limo ride in February 2001, during the Passholder preview week. Thank you.
Originally Posted By jonvn "After all these years, it's beyond "duh" to even raise and argue the point" Not really. Not when you speak the way you do. You give the impression of never being there. And you have flat out never stated you have, so that means you have not. Talk about oddballs....trashing a place for years you've never even stepped foot into.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I first rode the tacky Superstar Limo ride in February 2001, during the Passholder preview week. " Then why did you say it "Must have been" whatever? So, you are now saying you went once in February of 2001. Ever go again? Did you ride it ever a second time? When?
Originally Posted By jonvn "^ Weirdo" No. Just someone who thinks you have a bit of a problem in that you can't answer a very simple question in a straightforward manner, and have repeated the same things endlessly regardless as to their application to a conversation. Your constant references to being in therapy, and other psych stuff such as the abilene paradox are a bit telling. I'm sorry for whatever problems you have, but I'm really not interested in having them played out on me.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher Oh, gawd. Why I get caught up debating and arguing with oddballs, but "must have been" was merely a sarcastic phrase aimed at what "must have been" going through the misguided minds of DCA's creators when Superstar Limo, if not DCA in general, landed with such a thud.
Originally Posted By dshyates Hey, hey. I'm the resident weirdo. You have to come up with another name for jon. I suggest "Wackadoo". Or maybe just "Captain".
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Me too -- meaning.... I rode 'Superstar Limo' during the AP preview in Feb 2001. And for the record, I found it was no better or worse than 'Monsters, Inc.'
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Hey, hey. I'm the resident weirdo << Well, you at least aren't so weirdly obnoxious. Moreover, I suspect you at least have a better grasp of what makes things truly Disneyized or not.
Originally Posted By jonvn Yes, that's what does it. Cartoons and guns. OK, obviously I've hit a nerve here, and whatever demons this person has is spinning them out of control. Oh well.
Originally Posted By jonvn "And for the record, I found it was no better or worse than 'Monsters, Inc.'" Yeah, it's really pretty much the exact same ride. I thought SSL was ok. It was pretty funny as far as such things go. Had dancing pigs. There were a few little issues with it, but overall, yet one more thing that got overly criticized for what was wrong with it.
