Originally Posted By bboisvert Since others have posted talking points from Drudge and other neo-con sites, here's some from the left. Please refrain from the usual name calling and partisian hackery and let's discuss the merit (or lack of) in these statements. ============= # The desire for change in the country is intense—60% think America is on the wrong track. In 1994 only 55% of the country felt that way. # President Bush is very unpopular. Only 39% approve of him in one poll—that is lower than anyone, except Nixon, during this point in their presidency. # The news isn't better for Congress. Only 24% want Congress to continue in this direction—63% want a significantly different direction. # The Republican-controlled Congress' approval ratings are at 29%—the lowest level since 1994 when Republicans swept into power. # The wheels are coming off the right-wing machine. Tom DeLay is under indictment. Republican are having trouble finding good candidates. Business groups and religious conservatives are splitting. Even Karl Rove is under scrutiny. # On the issues, from Social Security to Iraq to drilling the Arctic, the public is rejecting the Bush agenda. # Americans say they trust Democrats over Republicans by 51% to 37%—the first time since 1992 that number has topped 50%.
Originally Posted By Shooba It's the nature of politics. As much as people would like to believe that the USA has shifted irreversably to the right, it's not the case. Eventually, the Democrats will have the majority(s) again, because many people have forgotten why they voted them out in the first place. And then the cycle will reverse itself again in the future.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Since I'm not at Disneyland, I can do this: *pops a bag of popcorn and gets comfortable*
Originally Posted By Beaumandy You guys believing your rigged polls again? Exactly who from the dems is going to have a chance in hell of winning the whitehouse in 08?
Originally Posted By cape cod joe If Hillary gets in I might pull a Hollywood stunt and leave the country. On a serious note, there's not a whole lot of potential out there from either party. The game is early so hopefully we'll have a fun fall and 2007 jockeying for position.
Originally Posted By bboisvert <<You guys believing your rigged polls again?>> You say it's rigged. Maybe they are. Back up that claim, please.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ When I read the "rigged polls" comment, it did stand out a bit to me. I thought to myself "where did THAT come from?" I know that it's common when polls come out that people don't agree with to think that they're not accurate, but you usually don't hear someone come right out and claim they are rigged. I have since found a reference. On Tuesday of this week, Rush Limbaugh said: "They [the Democrats] believe their own rigged polls" So there you have it.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy The polls are rigged. The media uses polls that are more heavily wighted with democrats, they use wording that is misleading and on and on. They make up these polls, get the numbers they want then use those numbers as a story. Then America votes for the Republicans anyway, leaving the morons on the left to wonder what happened.... They believe their own rigged polls. I didn't hear Rush say that, but that makes me happy to hear.
Originally Posted By bboisvert REPEAT: You say it's rigged. Maybe they are. Back up that claim, please. I'd like to take you at your word, but I'd like a little more that just an outright dismissal.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy bboisvert, give me the source for the polls you posted. Give me the number of people polled, their political party, the EXACT wording that was given to the people polled. Then lets go over it.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder <a href="http://rasmussenreports.com/" target="_blank">http://rasmussenreports.com/</a>
Originally Posted By bboisvert As requested, here are the sources for these statements. Let me state up front that I do not necessarily endorse or refute these conclusions. Full disclosure is that they were sent to me from a PAC. It is true that there are also right leaning polls that may contradict these numbers. This is why I wanted to take the opportunity to have these held up to the light of day and see what everyone here thinks of them. If they are "rigged", then please provide proof. ============================= # The desire for change in the country is intense—60% think America is on the wrong track. In 1994 only 55% of the country felt that way. <a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pollingreport.com/r ight.htm</a> ============================= # President Bush is very unpopular. Only 39% approve of him in one poll—that is lower than anyone, except Nixon, during this point in their presidency. <a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pollingreport.com/B ushJob.htm</a> ============================= # The news isn't better for Congress. Only 24% want Congress to continue in this direction—63% want a significantly different direction. <a href="http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_January_31_2006_Memo.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.democracycorps.com/ reports/analyses/Democracy_Corps_January_31_2006_Memo.pdf</a> ============================= # The Republican-controlled Congress' approval ratings are at 29%—the lowest level since 1994 when Republicans swept into power. <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB113866150512360250.html?mod=todays_free_feature" target="_blank">http://online.wsj.com/public/a rticle/SB113866150512360250.html?mod=todays_free_feature</a> ============================= # Americans say they trust Democrats over Republicans by 51% to 37%—the first time since 1992 that number has topped 50%. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/28/AR2006012801086.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/28/AR2006012801086.html</a>
Originally Posted By Beaumandy bboisvert, I have to go out for the night but wanted to let you know that I appreciate the work you put in for these polls. When I get back I will look at them in detail... should be fun to see if I can prove my point. STPH, was rasmussen the people who did the polling from the original post? Off to the ice rink.
