Let's Talk about 'UP' (please warn of spoilers)

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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    Pleakley? He is no way a villain!!

    Um, is Ratigan inside that book?

    Carl is 78? Man, this is as thorny a problem as the Beast being 10 years old when he is first transformed.

    If you could get away with a 62-year-old Carl, you could make it work.

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    Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs

    From DK Books...

    Disney Villains: The Essential Guide
    -Evil Queen
    -Captain Hook
    -Vile Villains: Lady Tremaine, Stromboli, Edgar, Yzma, Kronk, Rourke, Jafar and Stinky Pete
    -Maleficent
    -Cruella
    -Shere Khan
    -Ursula
    -Scar
    -Crafty Critters: Hopper, Molt, Foulfellow, Gideon, Prince John, Sir Hiss, Sheriff of Nottingham, Bruce the Shark, Si & Am and Lucifer
    -Sid Phillips
    -Out of This World: Jumba, Henry J. Waternoose, Randall Boggs, John Silver, Hades, Scroop and Zurg
    -Gaston complains about being left ouf of the book on the last page.

    Eight Villains have sections all to themselves, while the other Villains share a two-page section.


    Disney Villains Ultimate Sticker Book
    -FAIRYTALE FELONS
    --Hook, Smee, Hook's Pirates
    --Malef, Malef Dragon, Malef's goons
    --Evil Queen, Hag, Raven
    --Gaston
    --Madam Mim
    --Jafar
    --Lady Tremaine w/daughters & Lucifer
    -CROOKED CREATURES
    --Ursula, Eels
    --Shere Khan, Kaa, King Louie
    --Bruce
    --Foulfellow
    --Prince John, Sir Hiss
    --Scar, Hyenas
    --Hopper
    -SINISTER SCHEMERS
    --Cruella, Jasper & Horace
    --Medusa
    --McLeach
    --Shan-Yu
    --Edgar
    --Sykes
    --Governor Ratcliffe
    --Stinky Pete
    --Yzma, Kronk
    --Rourke
    --Frollo
    --Sid
    -MONSTERS AND ALIENS
    --Randall, Waternoose
    --Hades
    --Jumba, Pleakley
    --Zurg
    --John Silver, Scroop


    To answer your question, no Ratigan. :) No Chernabog or Queen of Hearts or Horned King either...
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Well, Muntz is also one of the rare villains to have his own theme song. A full tilt ballad, no less. It's performed over the end credits. Who has heard it? It was composed by Michael Giacchino, who also wrote the clever lyrics.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dlmusic

    <<This isn't really a huge thing for me, but since we're still talking about it... A collar that turns a dog's thoughts into English is one thing>>

    The implication is that the dog's are pretty intelligent considering they are forming rather complex thoughts. Certainly if a device truly existed the thoughts of a dog would not be nearly as complex as the ones in the movie, especially the henchman dogs. From the beginning it seemed the intention was that dogs are much smarter than we think they are (or at least they are in the world of this movie) and it's a communication issue.


    About Charles Muntz

    I still maintain I've seen some pretty spry 90 year olds. What about Roberta McCain?

    Charles doesn't do that much in the movie besides fight with a 78 year old and 12 (Russell's age?) year old and climb around a bit.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dlmusic

    <<Who has heard it? It was composed by Michael Giacchino, who also wrote the clever lyrics.>>

    I did! I loved it! I especially liked the filter they put over it to make it sound like an old gramophone record or radio recording.

    Dark horse for an Academy Award?? Just kidding. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs

    My friends and I sat through the end credits...lol...and I don't think we were paying attention to the song. :)

    Dug, there are some Villains who have their own song, so I wouldn't exactly call it rare...it would be nice if Disney could put together a Villain album. A *good* Villain album. ;)
     
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    Originally Posted By jrayfarm

    I LOVED this movie. Any film that can spark 6 pages of dialouge is more than a film - it's art. I've shared my own experience with watching the film here: <a href="http://www.conversantlife.com/marriage/looking-up" target="_blank">http://www.conversantlife.com/...oking-up</a>. Check it out and let me know what you think!
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    >>Dug, there are some Villains who have their own song, so I wouldn't exactly call it rare...<<

    I didn't mean villains who sing a song, I meant ones who have, essentially, their own theme song.
     
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    Originally Posted By cassiedoodle

    Well... I cried when the Disney opener came on (sigh), I SOBBED during the beginning montage, I cried through out the entire movie, I cried when I realized we were sitting behind an adorable elderly couple, I cried in the parking lot, I tried all the way home. I'm going to have to go see it again, I'm sure I missed a lot while I wish blowing my nose.

    LOVE IT!
     
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    Originally Posted By cassiedoodle

    *wish= was
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    >>Dug, there are some Villains who have their own song, so I wouldn't exactly call it rare...<<

    <I didn't mean villains who sing a song, I meant ones who have, essentially, their own theme song.>

    There aren't TOO many, but offhand I can think of Cruella De Vil, Gaston, and Ratigan.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    And, of course....

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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I don't think Cruella wants that song for her theme song.

    Kronk has his own theme music. He hums it himself.

    When I heard the Muntz song, I decided on the spot to buy the CD.

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    Originally Posted By thenurmis

    The 3-D effect is nothing short of amazing!!
    I loved the story, loved the dogs ect ect, but I left wondering if I could ever look at a live action 2-d movie again, with out feeling ripped off in some way.
    I wonder if this what people thought when movies went from B&W to color?
     
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    Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie

    I just saw it again today. Picked up a few thing that I didn't catch the first time through. I'm off to get the CD as the song when Carl takes off to rescue everyone made me smile so big I got tears in my eyes.

    One little thing I picked up on the second time around BIG SPOILER: Ellie finished the scrapbook when she was in the hospital shortly before Carl showed up with the baloon. She was looking through the finished scrapbook and the tape and supples are on the table next to her. I think I'm going to cry again...
     
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    Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs

    <<Dabob2: There aren't TOO many, but offhand I can think of Cruella De Vil, Gaston, and Ratigan.>>

    Also...
    -Captain Hook: The Elegant Captain Hook
    -Si & Am: We Are Siamese (The Siamese Cat Song)
    -Madam Mim: The Magnificent Marvelous Mad Madam Mim
    -Prince John: The Phony King of England

    :)

    And yet the Villain soundtracks failed to include the latter two songs, amongst others...grrrr
     
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    Originally Posted By alexbook

    >>From the beginning it seemed the intention was that dogs are much smarter than we think they are (or at least they are in the world of this movie) and it's a communication issue.<<

    That was how I took the dogs. There's an old idea in movies that some animals, cats and dogs especially, are as smart as humans but just unable to speak. These dogs are actually a bit less intelligent than the animals in "Bolt" or "101 Dalmatians" or "Lady and the Tramp," in that they're so easily distracted.
     
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    Originally Posted By MissCandice

    I'm glad I am not the only one who was crying when I saw this delightful movie. I almost had to leave the theater for a minute during that montage, I was crying that hard.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I don't think Prince John wants The Phony King of England for his villain song. He's the only villain who gets a song that is an insult. ;)

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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    >I almost had to leave the theater for a minute during that montage, I was crying that hard.<

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