Originally Posted By Moon Waffle Screamscape has had this rumored for a while. Note: RUMOR. But still a fun thought. If the new Tron movie does well, is it possible? I don't know how they could really replicate the stream of light, but even if not, it could be one fun (to ride and watch) ride. But IMO they'd have to expand the track for a longer ride, and of course, BANK THE TURNS. Thoughts?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I don't know how they could do it without having a rediculously low capacity. Even the Rocket Rods with 7(?) passengers per car had a fairly low capacity, and it would be tough to make anything that resembled the light cycles hold more than one or two guests. Sounds fun though!
Originally Posted By lesmisfan it would be great to see something up there again and bring some more energy to tomorrowland.
Originally Posted By TempestsPrince Motorcycle themed coasters are actually in use, but it would be difficult to incorporate into the TL area. Anything slower might be something of a let down. I can't imagine that the PM track is built to handle the stress of something like that however. The light trails could be done with wall segments next to the track that lit in sequence as the ride vehicle passed. That would look good from a side-on perspective.
Originally Posted By TempestsPrince Sorry, forgot to put the link. <a href="http://www.davedragon.org/pink/darien-lake-motocoaster.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.davedragon.org/pink...ster.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I could swear one of the ideas batted around before Rocket Rods was for a cycles on the PM track, but it was abandoned for capacity issues.
Originally Posted By oc_dean The number of issues of a Tron Light Cycle ride are many ... but just for starters ... The beauty of the former Peoplemover ... It was an invitation FOR ALL people to join in. Tron Light Cycles would be "Rocket Rods 2.0" .. which means the "thrill seekers in better health" - only.
Originally Posted By oc_dean ISSUE #2: In both movies (the 1982 and one to come this December)they are called - LightCycles, and for a reason. Because light is pretty much it's whole gimmick. How do you do a Light Cycle ride out in the open .. during the daylight hours? Take a typical summer day - Park opens at 9:00am. Park doesn't get fully dark in the summer till about 8:45pm. And generally it remains open till midnight. So, out of a 15 hour day. 12 of those hours are daylight. And the only time Light Cycles are going to be effective .. is in those 3 hours of night time. Because there's more daylight than nighttime .. they need a ride that is suited better for the daylight. DUH!
Originally Posted By oc_dean ISSUE #3: CAPACITY The Light Cycles are a fast moving vehicle in the movie. If they attempt it, obviously .. it's not going to be running at Peoplemover speeds of 2MPH. In order to get the effective of speed ... We're talking rollercoaster type speeds. AKA - Rocket Rods. Or in this case - It would end up being "Rocket Rods 2.0" That means creating a safe distance from each dispatching vehicle. Which ultimately brings down the capacity. It would have to be a train of them .. like 6 in a row, or more. We know they can't be tandem seating (AKA, Big Thunder, Space Mountain seating) because of space issues through the buildings.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Elaborating more "ISSUE #1" - FAMILY ORIENTED ATTRACTIONS.... Disneyland is first and foremost a FAMILY FRIENDLY Theme Park. And I truly feel what belongs on those overhead tracks .. is another Peoplemover type attraction that invites the whole family. Thrill type attractions pushing Rollercoaster type speeds is an invitation to one demograph only. The Thrill Seekers. Just throw the grand parents, and the little ones aside, and the ones with any health issue, even a minor one. Because the Peoplemover encompassed so much of the land .. making basically one giant circle around the land .. it's obvious that whatever goes up there again - sets the tone for who's invited into this land. The tracks do make a sweep across the front entrance. Walt Disney's staff was very creative on one very subtle element that was obvious to them ... and less on the public. Each entry point into every major section of Disneyland .. from the front gate .. to the view down from Town Square .... to the view of each land from the hub ... there's a subtle thing going on ... and that's carefully crafted "entries" that --INVITE-- PEOPLE TO COME IN. The world of tomorrow does not belong to thrill seekers alone. It should be a land that demonstrates the world of the future .. is welcomed to all. From ages 1 to 101 .. and everything in between. So, while that overhead track encompasses the whole land .... the future tenant should "encompass" every conceivable person who want to feel accepted into this world of the future.
Originally Posted By oc_dean ISSUE #4: TRON DESERVES A PROPER ENVIRONMENT - THE SHOWBUILDING The rumors of "Tron-ified" Peoplemover track, go beyond that, but include a fully immersive journey completely contained within it's own show building. And that's what Tron Legacy truly deserves. A journey through it's own cyber world .. from top to bottom. It's an intriguing immersive world .. if you watch the old film .. and have seen the trailer for the December film on the net. To me .. It would feel like a cop-out doing a ride on the old familiar Peoplemover track with views of Tomorrowland .. and call it Tron Light Cycles ... just because that's what the vehicle is called you are riding on. I would think Tron fans would like to see a true Tron attraction - Not "Rocket Rods". Because that's essentially is what it would be - albeit, just a different styled vehicle. It would be a "cop out" to Tron fans. It would be a "cop out" to fans who crave a new Peoplemover experience. They aren't winning by trying to create "Rocket Rods 2.0" here. The only thing that would be winning - is some imagineer's agenda who's pushing a Tron theme down Tomorrowland's throat, no matter what!
Originally Posted By oc_dean AS A SEPARATE NOTE: If they truly have a "Rocket Rods 2.0" agenda here. That means more than just banked turns. They will have to do SERIOUS work to all 4,000 feet of track. We're basically looking at one long ROLLER COASTER track .. that will have to be modified into several existing buildings, that have stood there for decades. I really feel what those tracks deserve is another leisurely tour that we can relax and enjoy to for 16 minutes. Not a "caffeine rush" done in 2 minutes 32 seconds!
Originally Posted By Manfried When I was at Disney I was told the reason Rocket Rods was taken down was because the track was going to fall down. So I think anything new would mean a complete rebuild of the track.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And I truly feel what belongs on those overhead tracks .. is another Peoplemover type attraction that invites the whole family." Given that the grades on the old Peoplemover path aren't even remotely similar to a roller coaster track I don't really see how a genuine thrill ride could be installed there. As fun as the Rocket Rods were it was not a thrill ride at all. A LightCycle attraction couldn't be a very different experience than Rocket Rods. Does anyone recall what the height restrictions were for Rocket Rods?
Originally Posted By Ohana Let's live a little people! it could be fun and they could blow up the PM tracks and start from scratch. It could completely change direction, avoid going through the old buildings and just beeline from the old PM hub out over the subs and autopia. that would kick ass!!
Originally Posted By oc_dean I think we can "live a little" just fine with Space Mountain, Astro Orbitor back on it's 1967 perch, a Tron E Ticket - if they go through with it, and Star Tours. You description makes it sound like any standard roller coaster experience out in the open. Like any coaster in Magic Mountain. The only difference would be the look of the vehicle. And there's something more compellingly futuristic .. when you have a unique transportation system coming in and out of buildings. Since TL:67 debuted .. and Logan's Run came along in 1976 ... the concept of an interconnecting transportation system that connects buildings is unique and yet to really took hold in cities around the world, hence .. still a futuristic concept. Cynics love to say the Peoplemover (of any new type) is old hat. But until they are as common place as Costco, Walmart, and McDonalds .... sorry, the cynics don't have a leg to stand on.
Originally Posted By Ohana actually dean, my description is nothing like magic mountain, i was simply opening the idea that the attraction doesn't have to follow the same old PM tracks
