Originally Posted By Mr X So, that Phil Gingrey guy, the Congressman who told Limbaugh to "lay off"? He got sent to the Ministry of Love, apparently. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/28/phil-gingrey-gop-congress_n_161964.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...964.html</a> In a groveling call to Limbaugh's conservative radio program this afternoon, Gingrey offered a humble apology and described Limbaugh as a "conservative giant" who plays an integral role in maintaining the ever-decreasing Republican base. "Rush, thank you so much. I thank you for the opportunity, of course this is not exactly the way to I wanted to come on. ... Mainly, I want to express to you and all your listeners my very sincere regret for those comments I made yesterday to Politico. ... I clearly ended up putting my foot in my mouth on some of those comments. ... I regret those stupid comments."
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Pathetic. Gingrey is not groveling to Rush, he's trying to make amends with the conservative base in his home state. What a coward. My favorite quote from the article was by Congressman Grayson: "However, not all members of Congress are as weak as Gingrey. Democratic freshman congressman Alan Grayson from Florida, for example, did not hold back in expressing his views of Limbaugh, stating, "Rush Limbaugh is a has-been hypocrite loser, who craves attention. His right-wing lunacy sounds like Mikhail Gorbachev, extolling the virtues of communism. Limbaugh actually was more lucid when he was a drug addict. If America ever did 1% of what he wanted us to do, then we'd all need pain killers."
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <My favorite quote from the article was by Congressman Grayson> Sure. If you can't argue with facts and logic, demonize your opponent.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Perhaps you could share the "facts and logic" of hoping that our president fails. Maybe you could hold rush accountable for HIS demonizing of Obama. I guess not. And for the record, I agree with the original post that Limbaugh really does play an "integral role in maintaining the ever-decreasing Republican base." Thanks, rush - keep up the good work! Pretty soon, the entire party will be as irrelevant as he is.
Originally Posted By Mr X Actually, that should've been in quotes too. It was from the link, not my own words. (just for the record..I like the way it's worded though!)
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Perhaps you could share the "facts and logic" of hoping that our president fails.> If you think that socialism works and you think the US needs more of it, then I doubt there are any facts or logic I could present in this forum that wouldn't make you want President Obama to be successful in implementing it. <Maybe you could hold rush accountable for HIS demonizing of Obama.> Those of us that don't believe socialism works and don't believe the US needs more of it don't see how not wanting President Obama to succeed in making our nation more socialist is demonizing him. <I agree with the original post that Limbaugh really does play an "integral role in maintaining the ever-decreasing Republican base."> Of course you do. That's the narrative of the MSM. <Pretty soon, the entire party will be as irrelevant as he is.> That's probably what a lot of Democrats thought in 1992.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***If you think that socialism works*** Socialism works fine in many cases.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<Pretty soon, the entire party will be as irrelevant as he is.> That's probably what a lot of Democrats thought in 1992.*** Hardly. At least, I certainly don't recall hearing any sentiments remotely like that. Of course, the GOP was nowhere near as damaged or marginalized by the fringes then as it is now.
Originally Posted By dshyates Oooo, the MSM. Dogma much? Socialism, EEYYIIIIII run for you lives. Roads Ooooooo shiver. Don't look honey, SCHOOLS!!!!!! AARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! OMGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!, next they will give us all health care.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Socialism, EEYYIIIIII run for you lives. Roads Ooooooo shiver. Don't look honey, SCHOOLS!!!!!! AARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! OMGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!, next they will give us all health care.>> Those are all fine and dandy but if the funds were allocated to say Wisconsin the governor of this state is a mental midget, believe me he'd find ways to screw those things up.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Somebody pointed out on the other rush thread that this is simplistic setting up of straw men. In this case it's "socialism". Palin was roundly criticized for leveling this charge, and it only made her say it even more. The reason is obvious - it isn't true. Even worse, the parts that could be argued honestly were enacted by a republican administration that you supported right through to their dying gasp. So if you're going to be looking at examples like the semi-nationalization of the banks and the auto industry, physician heal thyself first. The big difference between Obama's bailout and Bush's bailout will be the transparancy and accountability. We were promised that the last go-round would have these requirements but somehow that never happened. We'll never know exactly where that $350+ billion went. When asked about any benefits derived by the US taxpayer, all that's offered is that the markets didn't calamatously implode. To some, that's value. To me, it smells like highway robbery - "be thankful they didn't kill you" after they rob you blind.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<Socialism, EEYYIIIIII run for you lives. Roads Ooooooo shiver. Don't look honey, SCHOOLS!!!!!! AARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! OMGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!, next they will give us all health care.>> Those are all fine and dandy but if the funds were allocated to say Wisconsin the governor of this state is a mental midget, believe me he'd find ways to screw those things up.< will trade governors
Originally Posted By gadzuux We've got an old action hero movie star you can have. We're just about done with him.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <OMGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!, next they will give us all health care> They can't give what they don't have. What they can do is try to force others to give it to you. That never works for long.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Even worse, the parts that could be argued honestly were enacted by a republican administration that you supported right through to their dying gasp.> I defended them against unjust criticisms, but I never supported bailouts or pork. <The big difference between Obama's bailout and Bush's bailout will be the transparancy and accountability.> We'll see.
Originally Posted By Mr F Republicans are very ignorant. They think they are trying to restore morals & values, but in reality they don't want to "Value" you or your family, but instead Control you & your family.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I'm not a socialist, but I wonder why socialism is such an ugly word in this country. Who pays for your local public schools, fire and police departments? Certainly not the Walt Disney Company.
