Originally Posted By oc_dean For those of us who did not attend the D23 Expo ... would those who did ... kindly drop in ... and tell us what Disney has announced for the DLR? And as an added bonus ... what is happening in other Disney resorts around the world. But lets start with DL first. From scattered tidbits .. this is what I found so far: DLR: Star Tours 2.0 official announcement DCA: artwork and model for Carsland WDW: Fantasyland additions/changes Anyhow .. let this be the "official" topic line-up of all new attractions that have been announced through the expo. Thanks.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt The new Fantasyland at WDW looks amazing. Nice to see Disney putting all the princesses together in one spot in well themed areas with appropriate storytelling. It's too bad DL isn't getting a similar makeover so that TLM doesn't have to go into DCA. Oh well. New Star Tours? Not so excited. Maybe they'll reveal something interesting about it soon, but so far I'm unimpressed. Those rocks in Carsland are HUGE, aren't they? OAN, I am beyond thrilled that no mention has been made so far about Captain Eo returning.
Originally Posted By oc_dean DLR: Star Tours 2.0 official announcement <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VliPqCf4Z0w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...PqCf4Z0w</a> DCA: artwork and model for Carsland <a href="http://micechat.com/forums/d23-disney-twenty-three/123290-d23-expo-thread-post-your-photos-finds-6.html" target="_blank">http://micechat.com/forums/d23...s-6.html</a> scroll half way down WDW: Fantasyland additions/changes <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/travel/orl-disney-world-new-fantasyland-plans-page,0,2321880.htmlpage" target="_blank">http://www.orlandosentinel.com...htmlpage</a>
Originally Posted By oc_dean What I'm waiting to find out .... is .... Was Tinkerbell's dark ride to replace the former Motor Boat Cruise location at least semi-announced. The Ratatouille E Ticket for Walt Disney Studios Paris Any mention on DL's Tomorrowland rumored renovation for the future. Anything in development for EPCOT. Anything in development for DCA's Makeover beyond 2012. I'm sure something has been said on the return of Abe for late this year. And I can bet NOTHING was said on the controversial Captain EO return.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Oh .. this is hysterical ... the official announcement of WDW's Fantasyland additions: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08W5Os-Wnj0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...5Os-Wnj0</a> the minute they mention ... "and you get to see your favorite princess" .... the crowds go - ugh.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Yeah, but they were all ooohing and aaahing before and after that. That kind of made me cringe a little.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Does anyone think it's possible that Disney would remove Storybook Land/Casey Jr and the FL theater so that Fantasyland could expand to include the kind of interactive princess place settings coming to WDW? With Disney moving towards more interactive attractions and the princess franchise being such a huge revenue generator it would seem that something on that scale showcasing these character franchises grouped together in Fantasyland would be a logical thing to do in Anaheim.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Disney heads almost always are. Eisner had some charisma and so does that show designer responsible for World of Color. I don't recall any modern Disney management folks were beyond your typical dry corporate types.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Hans ... I hope you were totally joking. If you think that is a good idea ... over developing new ride concepts .. I think you're off your rocker dude.
Originally Posted By mawnck I think Hans is angling for a job at Disneyland. He just might get one. For the record, I would be sad to see Casey Jr and Storybook Land go, but I wouldn't scream bloody murder over it. They're 10 out of 10 for sentimental, but as attractions, there just ain't that much to them. It's not like they're a major artistic achievement that shouldn't be violated. There are (were) other attractions in that category, but I digress.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice ^^But if they were stupid enough to replace those two classics with interactive princess stuff, I would not be a happy camper. We don't do the meet-n-greet princess thing... They're nice adornments for the park and I appreciate that little girls enjoy it all, but that's it. I'd rather share a biting exchange of wit with Cruella.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "If you think that is a good idea ... over developing new ride concepts .. I think you're off your rocker dude." Well, no, but if Jay is telling the truth - that guests want more immersive experiences - then why not create environments for these characters in settings where they belong rather than sticking them in places like PP where they don't? I like Casey Jr and Storybook Land, but something tells me that the new Princess subdivision in WDW's Fantasyland is going to be a huge success. "We don't do the meet-n-greet princess thing... They're nice adornments for the park and I appreciate that little girls enjoy it all, but that's it" Exactly, but then again, Casey and SBL aren't high on my list either. To be honest, I probably spend less time in Fantasyland and Toontown than any other part of the entire Resort when I visit.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros But would adding a princess meet-n-greet-palooza change that? For me, I think it might scare me away a little more. What's currently in Fantasyland does appeal to a fairly broad range of people, whether they spend time there or not. I think that narrowing down that appeal would really affect who goes there. And since FL is the flagship land of DL, I think they really should keep the diversity there.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Look at this, for once I agree with Hans ;D I certainly understand that people want more rides and less areas with nice photo ops, but if this is what people REALLY want, than I say give it to them as long as its done RIGHT!!! And from what I seen of the WDW plans, apparently it is. And remember, they are still getting a nice fat TLM E ticket as well. I wouldnt mind seeing this come to DL if they found a way. But does this stuff really interest *me*? No, not really. But I'm a 35 year old black man from Compton, its safe to say very few things in FL REALLY interest me . I go to these areas simply because I remember them as a kid and its nice to ride a few of the rides, but this is the least interesting land for me as a guest. If I had kids or a little girl, then that might be different. So adding these things wont exactly make it any worse or better. As long as the theming and landscaping is strong, I imagine I would go just to admire whats done like so much of the park even if the experience itself doesnt interest me all that much.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I'm not suggesting the removal of Matterhorn Mountain or Small World or anything other than SBL, Casey Jr and the FL Theater. I think what would be gained would outweigh what was lost and it would compliment FL's existing theme and storytelling elements. I'm not advocating the change as much as I'm wondering if such a development is inevitable given Disney's commitment to the Princess franchise. If the WDW FL expansion is a hit it stands to reason that something similar might be considered for Disney's other parks.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I think what would be gained would outweigh what was lost and it would compliment FL's existing theme and storytelling elements. > An expanded princess meet and greet (considering they already have one) is worth losing these two charming DL near-originals? I enjoy the details and the miniature work on SLCB and I'm freaking 49. A princess meet and greet holds no appeal, and for those for whom it does, they already have one.
Originally Posted By Moderation I understand the concep you are throwing out there Hans, but I don't see how it would need to impact SBL/Cjr. FL theater has a pretty large footprint- if anything, I was thinking that pulling out the theatre and making Princess Happy Land would actually free up some land on the back side to augment a Frontierland renaisance concept.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "FL theater has a pretty large footprint- if anything, I was thinking that pulling out the theatre and making Princess Happy Land would actually free up some land on the back side to augment a Frontierland renaisance concept." That's true, however such an arrangement seems rather convoluted and hodgepodge with the Princesses disconnected from the main "fairytale" center of Fantasyland behind Sleeping Beauty Castle. The genius of the WDW design is how well the new section integrates with some of the existing FL infrastructure. At least it seems that way in this rendering: <a href="http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_orlando/images/Disney/mk_fantasyland_overall_screen.jpg" target="_blank">http://blogs.orlandosentinel.c...reen.jpg</a> Again, I'm not saying that Disney should do this in Anaheim, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
