Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of: <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/News-ID513430.asp" target="_blank"><b>LP Column: 1/12/11 Doobie's List: Top 5 Surprises (and Disappointments) of 2011</b></a> Alice in Wonderland, Tron: Legacy, Waking Sleeping Beauty, Main Street Electrical Parade ... Doobie gives his list of his top 5 biggest surprises and disappointments of 2010.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I agree with all these points except TRON. I don't know why, but TRON is my fav film probably since Star Wars Episode 3
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp I agree with Doobie! Let's not underestimate the value of FAMILY entertainment in regards to Persia and Sorcerer which were roundly panned by critics. I especially agree with Doobie's opinion of the "new" Main Street Electrical Parade - why do away with the Blue Fairy (for a float that held up the parade the day we went to see it) - why mess with the perfect score which is no longer perfect to one with a discerning ear!
Originally Posted By danyoung Thanks for the list, Doobie. I enjoyed the read, even though I didn't agree with all of it. Nicely done!
Originally Posted By Doobie The "family action movie" is what I loved so much about Narnia and was sad to see Disney it. But I think Persia and Sorcerer's Apprentice both got it right and hope there's more to come. Doobie.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed. The whole family adored Sorceror's Apprentice. A really good family adventure film. There are not enough of those around anymore.
Originally Posted By SafariRob Nice article. Mostly agreed. I enjoyed Tron and didn't find it boring at all. Disney Dance Crew was just WRONG!
Originally Posted By danyoung So I'm curious. I never saw the Dance Crew thing other than a couple of online clips. What were the moves that were so inappropriate with Mickey?
Originally Posted By snoozer Although I didn’t see all that was in the list (Nightastic/Apprentice) it was mostly spot-on - throughly enjoyed Alice and thoroughly disliked Tron. Though I would perhaps have put Toy Story Playland at the Paris Studios in disappointments too.
Originally Posted By Doobie Mickey did a "slapping" move that was more than inappropriate, that was the biggest one. Also tearing off Mickey's classic clothes while saying something about how old or tired those clothes were. Also, Mickey doing hip hop in general, while not inappropriate, is not a good idea, IMHO. Didn't see Toy Story Playland - that may have made the list. I really didn't have any other big disappointments. As I said in the article, Summer Nightastic wasn't even that big of a disappointment, but I wanted 5 of each. Doobie.
Originally Posted By danyoung Doobie, I don't want to be dense here, and I know it's a family forum. But when you say a "slapping" move, what does that mean? Was he slapping an inappropriate body part? I'm just trying to visualize what was so objectionable. Now, I heard the audio from this show, and some of the gansta slang was totally not cool, IMO. And I guess in general I agree that innocent little Mickey doesn't need to be made into a street thug.
Originally Posted By Doobie Yes, I forgot about the slang. We talked about this for 2 or 3 podcasts and I got it all out of my system so I've forgotten alot of it by now. I do remember one line (I think it involved alcohol) was changed. But anyway, as for slapping. There's probably a name for the dance but I'm just not hip enough. But you stand and make a slapping motion simulating slapping someone in the behind in front of you. Please don't admin me Doobie.
Originally Posted By MamaTinkAz I have to say, I was truly taken with Tangled. I wasn't looking forward to seeing it but our whole family really liked it and it had a little bit of the Little Mermaid feel to it. I can't wait to see it again.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo To be fair Doobie put his top favs and disappointments. For my experience - the five ups: Alice in Wonderland TRON Sorceror's Apprentice ElecTRONica World of Colour (though I have not experienced these last two) Biggest Disappointments: Toy Story Playland (biggest miss step in the history of Disney Parks IMHO) Toy Sotry 3 (well made and emotional, but depressing) WDW Fantasyland expansion announcement with a lack of clear plans The new Disneystore really not offering anything very new and still nothing for adult males Princess and the Frog - not great, it had it's moments, but not amazing.
Originally Posted By Doobie My only big disagreements on the stuff I personally experienced would be Tron and Princess and the Frog (which was 2009 - at least in the US). But I'm very curious - what made TS Playland so bad?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo TSPL is three carnival rides in Paris where snow and ice are not uncommon. The hourly capacity is less than half of a fantasyland dark ride, so waits for Slinky Dog are often 60 minutes for an attraction that is 10-20 in other parks. The Parachutes are a different decore for the Jumping Jelly fish, but each chute accommodates 6. Waits are 60-90 minutes for this. they have already had to wall off a lot of the decore because of broken pieces and they changed the flooring last month because people were getting hurt falling over (Disney have had an operational park in Paris for 18 years now). and it struggle in the wet and cold, and ruins the sightlines in Frontierland and Moteurs Action. RC Racer is a 90 min wait for a 1 minute (litterly) ride. You must be over 4 and a half feet to ride and under 6ft2, and it is less. It is also the first attraction Disney has made that I cannot fit on (but that is not why I am angry). It is a very cluttered area, and the Rex meet and greet statue keeps getting broken. The attractions struggle in the rain and cold, and they are open to the elements all the time (in DLP the Tea cups are under a glass canopy at least). There are two positive things I can say about it. It has a unique musical score. and, and, and, oh ya, it's nice to have some greenry and stuff to explore in the Studios. But they really dropped the ball on this all around. So tacky theming, low capacity carnival rides, external attractions in a hard winter environment, and ruined sight lines in the rest of the park. All for only about 20% less the cost of putting in something like Midway Mania or something better.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Here are the photos and trip report (we were there opening week). Not my cup of tea at all (and I like Toy Story). You do not need to have a facebook account to view these: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=196468&id=744599997&l=54802b3d41" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/album....802b3d41</a>
Originally Posted By Doobie Wow, that's pretty disappointing. Thanks for the detail and link to the pics.
