Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of <a href="http://www.LaughingPlace.com/Lotion-View-1340.asp" target="_blank"><b>LP Lotion: Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars at Hong Kong Disneyland</b></a> A look at Hong Kong Disneyland's newest ride including a walk-through of the queue and an on-ride video.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Interesting. It sort of looks like a Disney roller coaster. And then, it sort of doesn't.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: It's like a cross between Big Thunder Mountain, Grizzly River Run and Expedition Everest.
Originally Posted By phruby Agreed. It feels like Expedition Everest. Hopefully the bears are not in disco mode.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Hopefully the bears are not in disco mode.<<< What's disco mode? I've read that several times when it comes to Expedition Everest.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA The giant AA of the Yeti -- in the final scene -- Is designed to move. He's been broken and doesn't move for a long while. They've added a strobe light to the last scene. Flashing light = disco = Disco Yeti.
Originally Posted By friarthe A friend of mine went to Orlando 2 weeks ago and said that he didn't even see a disco yeti. Said the yeti never actually appears in the ride at all, except for the projection bit. I sent him a ride-through video I'd done and he was crushed. Between that and the numerous denigrations on Dinosaur (the running Carnotaurus was just laying on its side the last time I rode) I've begun visiting the parks as soon as I can after an opening, in hopes I can actually see the ride and not the beat-up version. I *guess* that means Disney's getting more of my money, but it is worrying.
Originally Posted By CDF2 The BGMRMC attraction looks like a very half-hearted attempt at bringing in the backwards feature of EE into a BTMRR ride with a tribute to the CBJ - from what I have seen in the POV posting, it looks very uninteresting and seems to have little of the charm or immersion of the original two coaster attractions. If you compare the execution of the intended concept at BGMRMC versus the execution of the Carsland attractions in DCA, there seems to be no comparison. Would it not have been better to place something akin to EE in HKDL park? Or did Disney simply admit that they don't want to attempt any more projects like the big Yeti from EE as opposed to using smaller bear AA's that they are much more comfortable with? Seems like a big step backward unless there was some real push to provide a unique new attraction for HKDL in a region which is famous for copying/cloning of most any kind of product.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Are you looking at the same information that I've been looking at? I think the new land and the BGM mine train ride look fantastic.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Okay .. not bad!! But it does like a bit too Industrial-Sized - New looking. I think everything should look a bit more aged down .. for an authentic "old west" feel .. and not a recreation of the Old West when it was brand new.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Makes me appreciate Big Thunder .. more. There are aged-down aspects ... with some sense of intimacy in sections ... and not like it was made by a crew who build Costco shopping warehouses - Like the way many aspects of Grizzly Gulch looks.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The thing with Big Thunder... as much as I love the detailed weathered look of the ride, it was always slightly confusing to me that the Big Thunder mine is so dilapidated if we are supposed to be in the "old" west, especially with the rest of the adjacent Frontierland looking so polished in comparison. It's supposed to be a haunted abandoned mine so perhaps Tony Baxter figured it should look run down.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< It's supposed to be a haunted abandoned mine >>> And therein lies the key difference. BTM is supposed to be old and run down, perhaps even set in the current day. Grizzly Gulch is supposed to put you back in time to what is now called the "Old West" when it was in its heyday. To say that should be run down would be similar to saying that Main Street USA should be run down, since it's based on a time period that's over 100 years old.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>It's supposed to be a haunted abandoned mine<< It is? I did not know that. I never got anything haunted about it -- rockslides and such, but those might occur in an old mine on their own.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Come to think of it, I don't get the sense of it being "run down" or abandoned as much as it is grungy and used. Like a working old west mine operation might have been. Exposed to the harsh elements, and not design for looks anyway, structures around a mining operation would be functional but not painted or anything. Spare parts and materials might be left here and there (gears, buckets, tools). The little town suggests we are IN the old west, at that time. At least, that's how I'd always viewed it.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >It's supposed to be a haunted abandoned mine<< "It is? I did not know that. I never got anything haunted about it -- rockslides and such, but those might occur in an old mine on their own." Yep. <a href="http://www.wdwradio.com/2007/01/disney-scene-investigation-big-thunder-mountain-railroad-whatas-the-story/" target="_blank">http://www.wdwradio.com/2007/0...e-story/</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And therein lies the key difference. BTM is supposed to be old and run down, perhaps even set in the current day. Grizzly Gulch is supposed to put you back in time to what is now called the "Old West" when it was in its heyday." Agreed. To me I think Grizzly Gulch looks fine the way that it is.
