Mermaid Complex Area

Originally Posted By HMButler79

Does anyone what else besides the attraction is schedualed for this area? Nothing has been released on Ariels Grotto, a merch or food loctaion. Also, the whole complex looks very small unless, the Meet n Greet is INSIDE Erics Castle and the shop. I hope one of the shops is a rip from Mermaid Lagoon in TDS.

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

I don't think they've released anything else concerning Mermaid. They've also been pretty quiet on most of the rest of the FL redevelopment outside the major additions. In the original overview artwork, it looked like one of the merchandise or refreshment facilities across from the Mermaid ride was going to be themed to a windmill, possibly from the "The Old Mill" short. The new artwork is vague in that area to tell whether or not this is still included. Same for the circus area outside of the "dueling Dumbos" and the old Barnstormer coaster. I suppose we can hope for some nice support facilities that will be included in this massive project.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

It's a VERY tiny plot of land... I wouldn't expect the ride to be too long, either.

 

Originally Posted By skinnerbox

If you take a look at the latest Google satellite image of DCA, you'll see the TLM construction site where the Golden Dreams Theater used to sit. It's not a very large plot of real estate, about the same footprint as Cartoon Spin a little bit north in ToonTown.

The attraction is reported to be approx. 3 minutes in ride time. That's about Cartoon Spin's length as well.

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

I heard 4. But .. I think .. they don't even know yet.

But to answer your question HMButlter .. plenty of artwork has shown Ariel to have her Meet&Greet on the bottom edge of the ride.

In this photo .. you can make out the steel grid being built, attached to the ride building here:

<a href="http://images2.wdwmagic.com/app_images_gallery/Attractions/Fullsize/Fantasyland_Full_12574.jpg?Expires=1295925351&Signature=isOycXslUMwdJ0ElOUBnVpUrt2PUBjK3dQuP6pK5uk7nQdwrSEJBXB7Qpg0vQvrOIhgwWazraTOfEnYnyGDooYwWl8aTiEmXCBdYDGeLhXtn7d-QY0p8f0sbIJyeh4GIq3~HKKTuxdIXxroYtwlkOEdifRrPcTuAV00pNm1omk8_&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIXD73LCXQPO2WCKQ" target="_blank">http://images2.wdwmagic.com/ap...QPO2WCKQ</a>

And I've said this before .. and I'll say it again. People should be careful not to be creating expectations of a "E Ticket".

With Skinner reporting 3 minutes .... I'd call this a good solid "D". But nothing more!

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

Just in case wdwmagic.com pulls a funny one on that image again ("Access denied) ... Just go here - <a href="http://www.wdwmagic.com/Attractions/Fantasyland/News/04Jan2011-First-2011-aerial-view-of-the-Fantasyland-construction-site.htm" target="_blank">http://www.wdwmagic.com/Attrac...site.htm</a>

And then click on the same photo to get a blow-up.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>With Skinner reporting 3 minutes .... I'd call this a good solid "D". But nothing more!<<<

Hell... a C ticket. That's TINY.

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

The building layout is almost identical to the one being built in DCA.

It's not monster large like PotC or Indy, or 'it's a small world'. More .. "medium".

 

Originally Posted By skinnerbox

Just by looking at the model of the attraction and watching the typical OmniMover speed of the vehicles being testing in the latest Disney video (<a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-118115-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-1.asp</a>), I don't see where this attraction is more than three minutes, from boarding to disembark. The show building is just too small.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

^ At least, in WDW, SWSA II will make up for that.

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

>>and watching the typical OmniMover speed of the vehicles being testing in the latest Disney video <<

Actually .. there is no proper footage YET that shows the speed of the Omnimover train. We see the camera man zooming and walking his/her way through .. but the only point where you see an omnimover moving .. is 2/3rds of the way in. You see the back of one driving backwards. But it last for no more than 1-2 seconds .. and you really don't get a proper "speed" feel for it.

If I could figure the speed in that 1-2 second bit ... I would say it's closer to Buzz Lightyear's "crawl" speed.

At Buzz's crawl speed .. the ride would be longer.

If it's Haunted Mansion's/Adventure Thru Inner Space's speed .. then yes ... it will most likely be 3 minutes.

For the record (DL):

H.M - 6 minutes
ATIS - 6 minutes
BUZZ - 5 minutes

 

Originally Posted By FerretAfros

The shots that show vehicles moving on the tracks are models to demonstrate the dry-for-wet effects, so the speed shouldn't be taken from those. I think it will be along the lines of the speed of Buzz, so it should be a little longer. I would guess that it will be longer than any of the Fantasyland darkrides, but probably shorter than any of the omnimovers.

And I don't know if it's still in the plans (I doubt it, since it's been a long time since I've heard anything about it), but one of the early reports was that there would be some sort of underwater-themed indoor play area near the exit of the DCA version. Given how little space there is in that location, I would be pretty surprised to see them build anything substantial there. However, since WDW has more space, I wouldn't be too shocked if they decided to add some of that sort of stuff. There's a rather large play area in Mermaid Lagoon in TDS that's very well themed, so if they take parts (or all) of that, it would work quite well. I read about the play area in the first round of announcements for the attraction, and there's been nothing since then, so I don't think it will actually happen, but you never know...

 

Originally Posted By WorldDisney

<<The attraction is reported to be approx. 3 minutes in ride time. That's about Cartoon Spin's length as well.>>

Imagineers confirmed its 6 and a half minutes.

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

Add that to the size of the building, and the blueprints ... I bet you, it will run at Buzz's "crawl" speed.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

Fine by me!

 

Originally Posted By CaptainMichael

<<Fine by me! >>

Yep, cuz anything faster than a crawl has poor EE turning green.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

I'm going to laugh hysterically if you get sick on FJ when you finally go.

#BOOM.


(Yes, it's now going to be used on LP, too, now, Mike. )

 

Originally Posted By leobloom

>> Imagineers confirmed its 6 and a half minutes. <<

When/where did they confirm that?

And a follow up: were the Imagineers who confirmed this counting the three minutes it will take to navigate your way out of the gift shop at the end of the ride?

Seriously, though, 6 1/2 minutes... that sounds like a throw-back to classic Disney ride design. Works for me.

 

Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

<<And a follow up: were the Imagineers who confirmed this counting the three minutes it will take to navigate your way out of the gift shop at the end of the ride?

Seriously, though, 6 1/2 minutes... that sounds like a throw-back to classic Disney ride design. Works for me.>>

Yea, they did say that.

Still, it's going to go so freaking slow. If HM went as slow as this thing it'd be Spaceship Earth long. It's too slow for how long the track is, IMO.

 

Originally Posted By leobloom

^^Gotcha. Here's hoping for the best, but preparing for the worst.