Originally Posted By tonyanton Yeah...maybe bring in a few animatronics like the bugs life or muppets 3-D movies. I thought I read somewhere that before budget cuts that Philharmagic was supposed to include a few AAs. Also, though I know it will likely never happen, it would be cool if they sent the 3 Caballeros over to the boat ride in Mexico at Epcot...would be a great "plussing."
Originally Posted By MagicalNezumi The crowds were pretty crazy last night for the final show. Guests yelling, pushing and crying all around. I also met up with the Kawamuras and we were all able to get tickets for the final showing. Yay! -- MagicalNezumi
Originally Posted By Malin Its sad that the crowds only turned up to this attraction because it was closing. If all these people made the time to watch this show on a regular basis there would of been no tears or pushing last night. But on the bright side contruction walls are now up and the attractions being gutted in preparation for the Mickey's Philharmagic, an attraction thats far better suited for todays audience.
Originally Posted By Malin *** Here's to hoping Philharmagic is plussed in the usual TDR way. *** What like Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters?
Originally Posted By leemac <<The crowds were pretty crazy last night for the final show. Guests yelling, pushing and crying all around.>> It never ceases to amaze me that Park Ops still don't get it - you would have thought they would be able to plan accordingly despite the fact that TDR guests are probably the worst when it comes to special events, attraction openings/closings etc. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that people would want to be at the final ever show. I could understand if they operate at a minimum base for hourly CMs but TDL is awash with them and it shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction. But then they still can't handle Countdown Parties so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Originally Posted By Malin I think your being a bit unfair here, while small issues like this do pop up from time to time, operations on the whole are very good and efficient. On a recent trip to WDW I witness a number of very serious crowd control issues like dispatching crowds from Fatasmic on to Hollywood Blv while the crowds for the next showing were just arriving. Holding a castle show minutes before the parade was due creating in no exits for the people leaving the show during a Mickey's Christmas Party event. Despite all the entertainment the Tokyo Resort puts on daily not once did I end up in a crowd control mess like the fiasco you get in Florida.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I think your being a bit unfair here, while small issues like this do pop up from time to time, operations on the whole are very good and efficient. >> I'm not denying that - on the whole Parks Ops handle crowds well but they fail to manage peak crowds. The dash on April 15 was crazy and poorly controlled despite more managers on-stage than you will ever see. They also still can't handle the Countdown Parties correctly - it is a very unpleasant experience for something that should be an enjoyable celebration.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***But then they still can't handle Countdown Parties so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.*** Having never attended one (as a paying customer, anyway), how exactly do they mishandle it? I'm curious, because the crowd control I've seen from behind the scenes hasn't been all that bad (but that's just what I've seen, which isn't much). In other words, give us the dish, Lee!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***It doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that people would want to be at the final ever show. I could understand if they operate at a minimum base for hourly CMs but TDL is awash with them and it shouldn't be a knee-jerk reaction.*** Having watched the JoeinJapan videos of the last day of Jolly Trolly (which amounted to a small but dedicated group of true fans, but nothing major crowd control wise), I might venture to guess they figured that MMR would've gone the same way? Just a guess (I think *most* Disney employees (Tokyo or otherwise) don't appreciate the fanatical nature of the Disney fans such as ourselves that take the whole history of an attraction such as MMR into account, maybe).
Originally Posted By leemac CPs are horrific - the worst Disney experience I have ever had. Once the turnstiles are opened it is a mad crush. You will hear people screaming as the crowd surges towards the gates. It is then a sprint to the parade route and all gloves are off. I've seen people being trampled over, plastic mats being ripped up by others and guests physically arguing with one another over spots. All gloves come off. I don't hold Parks Ops responsible - the CPs should be cancelled, period - it is entirely the guests' fault and I don't see any solution. It is an incredibly unsafe and unpleasant experience. However they are a huge money spinner. Irrespective I'll never attend another unless I'm forced to with work. I don't like spending NYE (and my birthday from midnight!) that way.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***CPs are horrific - the worst Disney experience I have ever had. Once the turnstiles are opened it is a mad crush. You will hear people screaming as the crowd surges towards the gates. It is then a sprint to the parade route and all gloves are off. I've seen people being trampled over, plastic mats being ripped up by others and guests physically arguing with one another over spots. All gloves come off.*** Wow. It's MUCH easier to just glide in on a parade float, play drums for a couple of minutes and wave to the people down in the street, and the watch the fireworks from the best view in the house! You should try that sometime, Lee.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ LOL. I've no artist talent whatsoever. Anyhow that is the most posting I've done in about a year and I'm exhausted by the banter. Plus it is almost bedtime.
