Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan In an interview with ABC News, Gomer Pyle stunt double Mike Huckabee, went on and on about Obama being raised in Kenya, and how that would tilt his world view, especially towards the Brits. Once told of his false pretense, he said he meant to say Indonesia. Indonesia was under Dutch control at that time, so how that would affect Obama's view of Brit's is perhaps something Glenn Beck, crazy person, can explain on his magic conspiracy chalkboard some evening. <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110301/ts_yblog_theticket/huckabee-falsely-claims-obama-was-raised-in-kenya" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_...in-kenya</a> Wow. Just... wow.
Originally Posted By SuperDry I'm not sure of the larger point that Huckabee is trying to make, but I am aware that there is a noise machine talking point being put forth that our approach to Libya should me more toward what the UK is suggesting - could this be feeding into that somehow?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan His larger point is that everything and anything Obama and his administration do is wrong-headed, straight down the line. That seems to be the only point anyone in the GOP is capable of attempting to make these days. And as in the case of Gomer, he gets so caught up in doing that that facts are shoved aside and his lack of international knowledge is revealed. It's really, really getting old.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I pulled a Huckabee. That was not an ABC News interview. It was on a radio talk show.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Gomer Pyle stunt double Mike Huckabee<< LOL is overused but I really did laugh out loud at this.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I think given that Mike Huck's kid killed a dog for fun, that's gotta affect his ability to separate sane from crazy.
Originally Posted By mele <<he argued that the president's upbringing in Africa gave him a very different outlook on the world than that held by most Americans. WOR radio host Steve Malzberg asked the former Arkansas governor to weigh in on the "birther" debate. Huckabee sidestepped, saying: "I would love to know more, but what I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example's very different than the average American.">> Of course, we know that Huckabee and his ilk DO find people with different views "troubling". But since when are Americans required to have ANY set feelings about the British? Is he implying that all Americans should love the British but Obama hates them? Wha?
Originally Posted By Mr X Historically speaking, all Americans should naturally hate the British for their crimes against America. No other country (save perhaps Japan) has inflicted more damage or cost more lives on our own soil.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Historically speaking, all Americans should naturally hate the British for their crimes against America. No other country (save perhaps Japan) has inflicted more damage or cost more lives on our own soil.<<< So much we could debate here, so little time. But it would be funny for me to return to America and run for office to see what would happen. I know I would never stand a chance, but it could be funny. Needless to say, I find it hillarious there is an assumption that there is a shared American view. Given the size, culture and values variations.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Needless to say, I find it hillarious there is an assumption that there is a shared American view. Given the size, culture and values variations*** No doubt. I've often been accused of being "un-American", and people often bring up the point that I don't live in America at the moment ("you abandoned your country!", stuff like that), and so I have no right to an opinion. Well, as long as I still pay taxes to the IRS I consider my opinion to be as valid as anyone else's.
Originally Posted By mele Amen, X! Sadly, you know a large part of the people who believe that Americans SHOULD share the same view would be unable to find the UK on a map. (And don't even ask them to figure out which part is Ireland or Scotland.)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I would love to know more, but what I know is troubling enough." Wow, that's weasly. I disagree with Huckabee politically on many things, of course, but he always seemed a bit more sincere than the average pol. My estimation of him just dropped considerably with this VERY weasly response. "I would love to know more," indicates there just might BE something to this here birther stuff, and is cowardly in the extreme. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example's very different than the average American." So he "knows" Obama grew up in Kenya. Except that Obama didn't. And then he takes a false piece of information that he "knows" and extrapolates something else that, even if the original piece of info was true, is a stretch. But that's par for the course for too many Republicans these days. They also "know" that Obama raised taxes on them, from which they extrapolate that he's going to take their guns and freedom and ability to stuff their kids with chocolate-frosted donuts all day away. That their initial piece of "knowledge" is wrong, and that none of the rest of it has even been proposed doesn't seem to penetrate.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ya, or when I cannot vote anywhere I am not allowed an opinion anywhere. You know what, it may be true as people move around, their perspective may change, but surely this is a good thing. If you stare at your navel too long, all you will see is fluff.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I wish cable and satellite providers carried Aljazeera News, but they don't because they are "unAmerican".
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I watch Aljazeera occassionally, we have it on our satellite. It is actually quite balanced most of the time.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan But that's par for the course for too many Republicans these days.<< It is. They're running on pure emotion these days. Which candidate can appear the most outraged at "Washington." But since none have yet officially thrown their hats in the ring (very unusual by modern election standards), it's pretty telling that they really don't have any fresh ideas to offer beyond "I Hate Obama" rhetoric.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I read today that Newt is set to announce his "Exploratory Committee" any day now. Quick: name the last time anyone formed an "Exploratory committee" to run for President and then didn't actually run. So Newt seems poised to announce the EC soon, and inevitably after that to announce officially that he's running (allowing for two headlines weeks apart, in the modern style). Lord help us all.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Actually, Newt is one of the most beatable potential candidates out there. He's a bomb-thrower who seeks to divide, and he's got a long history of outrageous statements and actions, not to mention all the hypocrisy. So bring it on, Newt - he's a close second to Palin as the democrats "dream" opponent. As for Huckabee, I still believe the nom is his for the taking. He can corral all those 'values voters' - the christian block that would never vote for a mormon. I understand that he's got a cush gig these days, but there's got to be people whispering in his ear. Sidenote: in past years I've been known to mock and deride christian conservatives for their unwillingness to vote for a mormon regardless of who they are and what positions they might espouse. Except currently, I find myself in the same mindset. Given all that's gone on over the past couple of years, and what I've learned here and elsewhere about this 'faith' - I can't see myself ever supporting a practicing mormon.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <So bring it on, Newt - he's a close second to Palin as the democrats "dream" opponent.> Oh, I agree. I don't think he could take a single state outside the south and a few in the mountain west. I think Romney would stand the best chance in the general election, IF he could make it past the primaries with the double whammy of being a Mormon AND sponsoring the Mass. health care reform that's awfully similar to Obama's. Huckabee's got a good shot at the nom, as would someone like Pawlenty, if he could find a way to be less bland.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Romney is still struggling to come up with reasons why Romneycare is vastly different than Obamacare. For him to make it through the primaries would basically require the other GOP candidates to not bring that up. Romney, the lifelong hunter, will say and do anything to be president. He's become very creepy.
