Originally Posted By DLFAN79 <a href="http://www.micechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12307" target="_blank">http://www.micechat.com/forums /showthread.php?t=12307</a> Does this just PROVE that WDW management is trying to SUPPLANT Disneyland as THE MK-park? I mean please. I have been ranting about this BEFORE the 50th started. WDW wants MK to REPLACE DL. They want its history, its specialness, etc. If the Big One hit DL, Al Weiss would be celebrating at Victoria and Alberts. ENOUGH w/ this 'coexisting' doo doo and they 'compliment each other'. NOO!!!! They r in DIRECT COMPETITION w/ each other. Nemo cannot surface soon enough.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 Not only that, but the redone WDW homepage has a 50 on it w/ NO mention of DL.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>ANYTHING WDW does is heinous. << Yet you're still an AP holder there aren't you?
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 No Better OR worse depending on your POV. im a JC Skipper AND a Mansion Butler! muahaha.........
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider Ack I just realized you weren't who I thougth you were. Disregard post #5
Originally Posted By danyoung A commercial like that only proves that the executives and editors in charge of it either didn't know or didn't care about the discontinuity. There's no plot to do anything - it's either a stupid goof or an uncaring one.
Originally Posted By Jim_n_Ruth Disneyland will forever remain where the magic began. No one can ever change that. It will forever be special, and respected. I've never been there but....if it wasn't for Disneyland, and the success it had, WDW would never have happened. As far as this crack is concerned: "ANYTHING WDW does is heinous" I suggest you get help.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN That's exactly the problem...NO ONE cares (except for us geeks), but Disney is about making money and selling the parks and since they realize most guests are dumb and have no clue about Disney (How many times have I heard pilots tell peoples on planes into Orlando to have fun at DisneyLAND!!!), they pass off these innacurate commercials like turkey legs from a stand.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""There's no plot to do anything - it's either a stupid goof or an uncaring one"" Um yea, im SURE DIGITALLY putting in Cinderella Castle in Walts opening day speech in BLACK AND WHITE was a 'mistake'. That must be a VERY painstaking mistake. please.......
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>but Disney is about making money and selling the parks and since they realize most guests are dumb and have no clue about Disney << First - what's wrong with Disney being about making money? If they weren't you wouldn't have Disneyland to idolize. You wouldn't have anything Disney because making and operating companies requires making money - shock- . Second- I don't think calling guests "dumb" because they don't jump up out of their armchairs and shout "THAT ISN'T DISNEYLAND'S CASTLE IN THE BACKGROUND OF THAT SHOT" is exactly fair. I think it's more dumb to have such outrage over some stupid commercial. It's funny that the people who supposedly "love" Disney the most - people on these and other sites - never EVER seem to have anything good to say about Disney. If you really loved it you would quit complaining and just enjoy it. There's this elitist attitude like everyone knows what's best for Disney but in case you haven't noticed they've been making money and they've been making millions happy every single year. What's so bad about that?
Originally Posted By jkayjs This is being done all over the place these days. Putting present day objests/people into old footage. I'm sure it was intentional to put a touch of Mr.Disney into the park he so wanted to build completely under his conditions. I'm not sure why we always assume it is evil or underhanded. All the parks are owned by the Disney Corp. Their aim and obligation is to make money. How they advertise is up to them. I could be wrong but my guess is that no one has arrived at WDW after booking a vacation because of that ad only to be outraged to find that it was actually DL they wanted to go to. For those of us that love Disney we know the difference. As for me seeing a child on a cart with their brain matter coming out of their ears because someone decided to get behind the wheel of a car impaired is "heinous". A possible intentional misrepresentation of one theme park as another is nothing more than an annoyance. Those of you that can have a magical day.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""think it's more dumb to have such outrage over some stupid commercial. It's funny that the people who supposedly "love" Disney the most - people on these and other sites - never EVER seem to have anything good to say about Disney."" So its OK to let them rewrite HISTORY, distort it, amd OBLITERATE DL in the process. What a Disney 'fan' YOU are...
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 "All the parks are owned by the Disney Corp."" Owned yes, way they are RUN? NO NO NO!! This latest move PROVES they are in direct competition.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>So its OK to let them rewrite HISTORY, distort it, amd OBLITERATE DL in the process. What a Disney 'fan' YOU are... << Is it possible you're misunderstanding the commercial? Maybe it was a poor choice the way it's edited (I haven't seen it) but maybe it's just trying to impart that the spirit of Walt himself is present in WDW as well as DL. Is it that hard to imagine that if Walt was alive when the MK was opened he wouldn't have been there and been just as enthusiastic about it as he was DL? In fact the way he spoke of EPCOT Center one may even believe he was MORE excited about the "Florida Project" and since he had sadly passed at the time he wasn't there in spirit? As said above I hardly find this to be a "Heinous" act - it's bad judgement maybe but it's hardly a crime against humanity. The parks are in competition with themselves as far as management goes but at the end of the day it's the same entity. The stockholders still get their money it just depends on who has to answer to corporate about why their park has lower attendance than their sister park on the other coast. You make it sound like someone at WDW is in some dark cave laughing shrieking "NOW PEOPLE WILL JUST ASSUME WDW IS THE OLDEST PARK MUAHAHAHAHA" - I really don't think anyone cares that much and I don't see that as the intention of the commercial. It's a poorly conceived commercial apparently period. Leave it at that it's nothing to lose sleep over.
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 i JUST saw and it was teh MOST disgusting vile thing EVER to emmit from Disney! It makes NO BONES of the fact that WDW 'is' '50'. And NOT ONLY did they put the Castle in, its ALL of MKs Main Street as well. WAKE UP!!!! They REALLY DO want ppl to believe WDW is 50!!!..... I cant WAIT till the Subs reopen and DCA gets its 2 Es. Then well see how WDW is gonna use THAT.....
Originally Posted By Labuda One & the same, vbdad - didn't you know that? Our little otown is always gonna be the same. BTW, he does a pretty good JC - even if he DOES do something other than the backside of water at the end of the night! hehe
Originally Posted By vbdad55 It just hit me when I saw the last post -- I must have been asleep at the switch.....
