Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Greetings to all you sweet little ducklings out there who enjoy going to the Magic Kingdom almost as much as a certain coven from Morva. ORWEN: Just the other day, us Cauldron girls got to thinking how much nicer it would be if there was more to see around the Rivers of America if only somebody was willing to spend a bit more money to plus the place. It seems to us that whenever we take the Riverboat ride around Tom Sawyer Island, there isn't as much to see in the Florida version as there is when you visit the Riverboat Ride in California. ORDDU: Of course California's version suffers a bit, too, ever since Cascade Peak was torn down. We miss the mountain with its waterfalls. But Florida never had that to begin with and it certainly would be a nice addition if they ever decided to add it. ORWEN: I think they just need more animatronic figures along the banks of the river, too. ORGOCH: What they OUGHT ta do is set that dang cabin on fire agin!! Got matches???
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well I agree that there is room for improvement on WDW's ROA, however I find the lack of eye candy on the railroad far more worrisome. You see, though I love Country Bears and Liberty Square, I find that the combo of Fantasyland and TTF to be soooooo weak (thankfully soon to be addressed), coupled with the poor excuse of a Frontierland and a toony Tomorrowland, and nothing to see on the train, with the weakest versions of PotC and IASW, I really get annoyed when going that I ddn't opt for one of the other Disney resorts instead. But if they did plus the ROA and the RR, along with the Fantasyland redo and de mall Main Street, then I would find there would be more magic in that Florida kingdom.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Scenery? You mean like Tarzan swingin' from the trees! Really, that Mickey Moose joke was old. Is the cabin no longer on fire? Does anyone remember those frozen OJ drinks you could drink on the River Boat? The AA's do look sad.
Originally Posted By MPierce I agree the ROA needs some more work on it, and the RR needs twice as much help. I enjoy both attractions, but they are lacking in eye candy.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Is the cabin no longer on fire? << Nope, and I can't remember the lame reason for stopping it either.
Originally Posted By MPierce My wife has tried several times to toss me from the train prior to my cremation.
Originally Posted By Manfried I think the train at WDW is a sad travesty. So is the ride on the Rivers of America. Both attractions could become big draws for a smaller amount of money if they just had some show wrapped around them. The Magic Kingdom is always crowded, so why not plus both attractions for a modest $10 - $15 million and you would have attractions that would draw a crowd.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> The Magic Kingdom is always crowded, so why not plus both attractions for a modest $10 - $15 million and you would have attractions that would draw a crowd. << Because they can leave them alone, and get away with it. They are still packing them in, so TDO figures why should we waste our money improving things as long as we have folks willing to spend a bunch of money for less, and less show.
Originally Posted By Manfried I know they are packing them in, but if they want to spread that packed in experience out, they could upgrade those two attractions for a low cost and keep them even happier. And even, maybe, extend their stay.
Originally Posted By MPierce I certainly agree with you Manfried. I have long been an advocate of improving, and maintaining the attractions that are in place now. They don't need to add a new e-ticket every year to keep most folks happy. The simple little touches combined with quality show is what most folks have grown to expect from Disney. ROA, and the WDW RR are what I would consider center piece attractiuons that should showcase the Magic Kingdom. I think they fail to meet a lot of folks expectations. A few million apiece would be money well spent.
Originally Posted By Manfried Aw come on. The back side of the train there is a lot of plant growth there now, which occurs naturally in Florida. I just think they could add a lot of train scenes back there. More than they have had in the past. They could do the same in other areas too. In California they have (admittedly they're aging) the Primeval World and Grand Canyon dioramas. It seems like the Magic Kingdom trains could use a lot more show than what they see riding by Splash Mountain and Big Thunder.
Originally Posted By brotherdave I seriously doubt that they'll ever add a Primeval World or Grand Canyon diarama to the WDW Railroad (especially since they already have a version of Primeval World in Universe of Energy at EPCOT). However, if they ever did decide to get rid of the dino's from UoE, what better place to put them than along the WDW Railroad! It would be great if somehow during the Fantasyland redo, they could add some scenery behind the new Little Mermaid building to help hide it and dress it up. Heck, a new tunnel here when the train arrives at the new Fantasyland Station (formerly Mickey's Toontown Fair) would be a great transition from the realistic 'wilderness' (aka Florida scrub brush) of Frontierland to Fantasyland's new Enchanted Forest. I'm not sure what else could be added back along the train route from the RoA area of Frontierland to Fantasyland, but it sure could use SOMETHING to spice it up a little. Wouldn't it be cool if the train could go through a small western town and get 'held up' by bandits? (Like Knott's.) Unfortunately, that would probably cause traffic situations for the trains since it is THE primary transportation within the park. Another thought while it travels behind Fantasyland, how about a larger scale "Story Book Land" with miniature buildings from Disney movies. It could also double as their response to Legoland and their "Mini Worlds".
Originally Posted By Manfried Anything back there that is decently done would be nice. Maybe they could import some real hobos and give them a permanent place to live.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Another thought while it travels behind Fantasyland, how about a larger scale "Story Book Land" with miniature buildings from Disney movies. It could also double as their response to Legoland and their "Mini Worlds".<<< This is what happens at DLP. The Storybookland is behind the berm and the train has a great view. I remember on my wife's 1st trip in 2000, she got off the train and said, "is that it?". There is loads that can be seen from the train in PAris, and even more in Anaheim. In WDW, not so much.
Originally Posted By jmuboy I think adding the Grand Canyon Diorama behind the HM as some added scenery to the back half of the train would be a good idea. It has been so long since I rode the riverboat I'm not sure what or where additionally scenery could be added.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad Disney seems to forget on these rides that there are kids in the park. The thrill of riding a train or big boat is over very quickly for them. If just some scenery, and it doesn't have to move, would be added it would give kids an incentive to want to ride more often. The beauty of this type of venue is you can't slow down to see something as you pass by. So what happens is you see something new each time you ride and that draws you back again and again. I find the same thing happens in Spash Mountain. The great thing with these is there is no limitation on what they could add. They can pick any theme from anywhere in the park.(more so with the train than the boat. It is a shame to have these great beautiful machines not supported.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Heaven forbid the children and adults can't just relax I hope they add Pixar to the RoA!Just kidding Disney
