Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Might as well hit the 'bad' news first, or the news that will get the attention. Today I heard that WDW's F-Land expansion will be taking another financial hit from DCL of all things. Apparently, they decided to debut an amazing new ship in 1/11 without adequetly funding entertainment for it. Lauren, among others, has no clue just how much money is required (heard costuming for just one new show is expected to be half a million) ... anyway, the terms 'rape and plummage' [from WDW] were used to describe what DCL will do to make sure the Dream has top-line entertainment when it opens ... I guess that means less crayons when Fantasy Forest debuts. Coronado Springs looks great. Think what passes as the Beach Boys were performing in aconcert for pulmonary specialists tonight. But rooms and Rix addition really give it high end look. Alas, no resort specific merchandise there anymore either. Fantasmic is in PATHETIC show condition, but the rubes in the audience don't notice. Iger says no more discounts this fall. Yep. Free dining just came out and in my room there's an offer for 40% off FW cabins, 35% off mods and 20% off values pretty much all none holidays thru Christmas Eve. I'm sure that 81% quarterly occupancy was why we get the 'new' animation All-Star resort! (will touch on that down the line). TSMM queue was embarrassing ... as always. Some merchandise is really very kewl ... and D-Street is a great addition to DD. There's stuff there I like and may actually buy ... and not vinyl either. The gallery tucked on the side of AMC is a treasure trove of artsy items too. 10-5 water park hours?!?! In May?!??! 9-5 DAK hours?!??! In May??!?! $3.99 for a tiny side salad at a value food court? Would they like my balls with my cash? Marvel merchandise is all over, especially at TPFKaTD-MGMS and DD. Spidey and Iron Man 2 lots. And unlike the crappy Hanes WDW tees, the Marvel ones are designer from companies like Junk Food (same have been sold at Macy's for some time). AC has been turned down everywhere thus far (VERY NICE) except it was way too warm in tonight's AIE 7 p.m. finale show. You can now buy food at Property Control. Bags of rice, pasta, lettuce, carrots, apple juice boxes etc. Much more to come ... I think I have 14 nights at sea to talk about too!
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<Today I heard that WDW's F-Land expansion will be taking another financial hit from DCL of all things. Apparently, they decided to debut an amazing new ship in 1/11 without adequetly funding entertainment for it. Lauren, among others, has no clue just how much money is required (heard costuming for just one new show is expected to be half a million) ... anyway, the terms 'rape and plummage' [from WDW] were used to describe what DCL will do to make sure the Dream has top-line entertainment when it opens ... I guess that means less crayons when Fantasy Forest debuts.>>> WDW's costuming is tasked with DCL and WDW's needs. It's always been that way. There's no form of accounting arobatics that can shave a clean $1mil off Fantayland Expansion an allocate it to Cruise Line entertainment. But it's far more believable with their limitted staffing and resources that costuming feels screwed trying to get everything constructed for the the new ships - keeping up with the ships and the parks before was a battle. Until we hear something has been cut from Fantasyland I'm assuming it's more about costuming and their issues then it is about budget reallocation.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Wow, Spirit, you are fast. I also heard rumblings that not only will there be no crayons in FL but that the "Midnight Prom" has also been cut. Hence only the Belle's Village and Mermaid art on the walls. Anymore you can add?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Shame on FLE...and here I think/here they are busy worrying and meeting about all the capacity issues it will have. How does that factor in?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper How long will you be in O-town Spirit? <<Coronado Springs looks great.>> I love Coronado. It's my resort of choice. <<Some merchandise is really very kewl .>> Merch has been improving since Summer '08 when I left my CP. Food is also slowly improving, now if we could only get some improvement with the actual SHOW!
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub If you want conversation with a SpiritQuikee you might try an invite to Spirit's favorite WDW restaurant. Or drinks and appetizer top of the world Bay Lake Towers!
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<$3.99 for a tiny side salad at a value food court?>> This is why I don't eat on property much. Eating a big breakfast off-property at my hotel combined with a couple of protein bars stashed in my waist pack and I'm good for most of the day. The "food items" I will buy from Disney, however, are the overpriced water bottles, for quality and convenience. But I'm still saving plenty overall by not dining in the parks. And the added weight loss from only eating the protein bars while visiting the parks is a nice bonus. << Would they like my balls with my cash?>> Geez Spirit... you of all people should know.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Today I heard that WDW's F-Land expansion will be taking another financial hit from DCL of all things. Apparently, they decided to debut an amazing new ship in 1/11 without adequetly funding entertainment for it. Lauren, among others, has no clue just how much money is required (heard costuming for just one new show is expected to be half a million) ... anyway, the terms 'rape and plummage' [from WDW] were used to describe what DCL will do to make sure the Dream has top-line entertainment when it opens ... I guess that means less crayons when Fantasy Forest debuts. << Did anybody really think that Fantasyland was not going to take hit after hit to it's budget? They've never had a cohesive plan for this expansion. It's the fly by the seat of our pants, lets see what we do today format. I wonder how much the kiddies will be paying for those crayons now? >> Coronado Springs looks great. Think what passes as the Beach Boys were performing in aconcert for pulmonary specialists tonight. But rooms and Rix addition really give it high end look. << Was Mike Love there or was it one of the other three groups singing as the Beach Boys? >> Fantasmic is in PATHETIC show condition, but the rubes in the audience don't notice. << Did you take a survey?
Originally Posted By hopemax > You can now buy food at Property Control. Bags of rice, pasta, lettuce, carrots, apple juice boxes etc. < They've been doing this since just before Christmas. My Dad thought it was very strange, but considering the prices they stocked up. We know Disney donates a lot to charity, but the only thing we could think of is that their contracts for food orders are so large that even with donating to charity they have too much extra.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Iger says no more discounts this fall. Yep. Free dining just came out and in my room there's an offer for 40% off FW cabins, 35% off mods and 20% off values pretty much all none holidays thru Christmas Eve. << He had his fingers crossed when he said it. >> I'm sure that 81% quarterly occupancy was why we get the 'new' animation All-Star resort! (will touch on that down the line). << At least it's not a DVC. >> TSMM queue was embarrassing ... as always. << They need to install electrified chains in the queue to keep those tourist in line.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> 10-5 water park hours?!?! In May?!??! 9-5 DAK hours?!??! In May??!?! << It cost more money to keep those CM's around later than that. How do you expect the Mouse to make a buck? >> $3.99 for a tiny side salad at a value food court? Would they like my balls with my cash? << Only if they're autographed by baseball players. >> Marvel merchandise is all over, especially at TPFKaTD-MGMS and DD. Spidey and Iron Man 2 lots. And unlike the crappy Hanes WDW tees, the Marvel ones are designer from companies like Junk Food (same have been sold at Macy's for some time). << You mean there's a possibility of them lasting more than a few months? >> AC has been turned down everywhere thus far (VERY NICE) except it was way too warm in tonight's AIE 7 p.m. finale show. << I didn't think that effort to turn the inside areas of WDW into green houses would last. People just aren't going to put up with being hot on their vacation. No matter how GREEN Mickey wants to be. >> You can now buy food at Property Control. Bags of rice, pasta, lettuce, carrots, apple juice boxes etc. << That will sure help the CM's out. >> Much more to come ... I think I have 14 nights at sea to talk about too! << We'll be here.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Hmmmmmm, more to add to my WDW sucks mantra. << I think it has passed beyond mantra, and has now obtained opus status.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>This is why I don't eat on property much. Eating a big breakfast off-property at my hotel combined with a couple of protein bars stashed in my waist pack and I'm good for most of the day. <<< Same here. 'nother park of Off Site: Brekkie Buffet!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I are surprised to hear that the Fantasyland expansion project could possibly be affected by what goes on at the Disney Crusie Line. Aren't they handled like separate companies that have their own individual budgets to work with? ORWEN: And does this mean no mansion for Lady Tremaine and no wood cutter's cottage for Aurora? If so, I may have to violate the agreement I once made to not cast spells in this part of the world! ORGOCH: Got straight jackets--fer Orwen I mean...gonna' need hundreds of 'em...
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<Aren't they handled like separate companies that have their own individual budgets to work with? >>> Yes, they are. Hence my suspicion - and considering that costuming is the only real link between them that this is a telephone game misunderstanding of what's going on and it likely has a lot more to do with costuming's resources then funding.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>ORWEN: And does this mean no mansion for Lady Tremaine and no wood cutter's cottage for Aurora? If so, I may have to violate the agreement I once made to not cast spells in this part of the world!<<< A nice big curse on the house of TDO would be nice.
