Originally Posted By HongKongDisneyLand <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyHhsGVGPak" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...hsGVGPak</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEF2awc6r0M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...2awc6r0M</a>
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Yeah, it looks good . I looked at these D 23 clips already over at Mice Age the day before and I have to say people seem impressed! You want to know what is good, but sad at the same time? This is the FIRST attraction, litterally since the park was built, that I am generally excited about it. I mean cant-wait-to-ride-it-how-many-days-til-opening-fawning-over-internet-pictures excited ;D. Before then, there wasnt a SINGLE thing in this park that has done that before .
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Nope, but now I have seen this and checking it out, it is cheaper for us to fly to HK than WDW or DL. Given Sarah has never been further East than Dubai, I think a trip in 2012 will be in order for the Baloos. Grizzly and Mystic Manor makes it worth while now.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney True Dave, but I will STILL say a trip to TDR before then will do you and Sarah some good as well .OR if you guys reeeaally want to wait 3 freaking years to get there, I'm guessing a double dose of HKDL and TDR would be good . The money you spend at WDW will easily get you to both resorts with maybe some money left to spare. I have NO clue where I will be or what I will be doing in 2012, but I think I might consider making the trip to HK for this by then which I only have once. And yes, I been a few times since, but it was only the FIRST trip to HKDL that I made a special trip to Hong Kong for directly and unless I'm in Hong Kong again with lots of time on my hands for some reason, I dont see myself in that park again until these additions are done.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well, now we are stuck with school vacation times and a Disney trip costs 3 - 6 times the amount it did when we used to go, I suspect we will be going to Asia before the states.
Originally Posted By Mr F I'm slightly Disappointed. I was hoping this would actually be an updated version of the "Haunted Mansion" complete with ghosts, a ballroom scene, and a Graveyard scene, but it looks like it's not.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I have NO clue where I will be or what I will be doing in 2012, but I think I might consider making the trip to HK for this by then which I only have once. >>> According to what an Imagineer told me today, Toy Story Land is slated for a 2011 opening, Grizzy Trail for 2012, and Mystic Point for 2013. So, unfortunately we're about 4 years away from Mystic Manor.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I'm slightly Disappointed. I was hoping this would actually be an updated version of the "Haunted Mansion" complete with ghosts, a ballroom scene, and a Graveyard scene, but it looks like it's not. >>> I'm absolutely delighted with what Mystic Manor looks like so far. I'm a *huge* Haunted Mansion fan, and don't really care for what they did with Phantom Manor, including the music and different storyline. I kind of like the idea that even though each MK is different, that there can be a few staple or anchor attractions that aren't terribly different: Splash, HM, BTMRR, Space Mountain, POTC. But even though it's very different than HM, Mystic Manor looks like it will be outstanding. After reading the descriptions, seeing the show scene mock-ups and attraction layout in the D23 booth, and just thinking about what all it means, they have so much potential to hit it out of the park with this one. Think about the ride system (essentially, that of Hunny Hunt) and what potential it gives them. Unlike an Omnimover where you can enter or exit any scene at any point in that scene's loop, with this ride system, each rider is guaranteed to see each scene that's designed this way from start to finish, and in that order. Think of how the Tigger and Pooh-falling-asleep scenes are handled in Hunny Hunt. Plus, there's a lot more opportunity to be fully immersed in the set. Compare the attic and ballroom scenes in the Haunted Mansion. In the attic, you're definitely "in" the attic, but in the ballroom scene, which has the largest collection of special-effect ghosts, you're not in the room at all, but rather are up above looking down upon it. With the Hunny Hunt ride system, there's a lot more opportunity to be immersed in the set. They showed one scene's concept art where you're in a room that's fully furnished, including a grand piano, and you move in between the furniture. And, when you consider that you can stop at various points facing a wall, see an affect sequence, then back up or at least make a 135-degree turn before proceeding, as is done in the Huffalumps room in HH, there's so much more they can do with the technology than is available with either an Omnimover or even a start-and-stop track system. Of course, in the end, it's not about the ride system, but about the story and overall experience. I based on everything I've seen so far, I have high hopes for both.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Is Hunny Hunt a wire-guided system? The guy in the video mentioned that Mystic Manor will use that, but I thought the PHH system used a series of electronic 'pucks' embedded in the floor that direct the cars where to go. I know that the Universe of Energy and The Great Movie Ride use a wire guided system (basically there's a wire embedded in the floor with a current running through it, which causes a magnetic field that is recognized by the vehicles, which follow along its path), so it is possible. I thought that the wire system allowed less flexibility in terms of speed and variation of ride path (since it's set in place and the car just follows), while the puck system communicated with the vehicle, offering several different variations (speed, spinning, changing direction, etc).
Originally Posted By SuperDry AFAIK, Hunny Hunt is puck-guided. The guy in the video may have simply mis-spoken or wanted to use overly-broad terminology. The MM ride vehicles certainly look like HH vehicles: two rows of two in a fairly compact form. And, I spoke to two different Imagineers, made mention of it being the same ride system as Hunny Hunt, and both agreed with me. <<< while the puck system communicated with the vehicle, offering several different variations (speed, spinning, changing direction, etc). >>> My understanding is that the puck system is passive and dumb, and all it does is provide location awareness to the vehicles. Or more specifically, it provides location error correction to the on-board location system (which is either inertial, dead reckoning, or a combination of the two) which is very accurate for short distances but tends to drift over time. So, all of the smarts as far as which direction to go, when to turn, how fast to go and went to stop, are on-board each vehicle, with the pucks just correcting for navigation drift over time (or providing initial location information if the whole thing reboots and therefore loses its previous state). And then they're in contact via radio with a master computer so that they can report that they're on course, receive the next cue, and if one breaks down or goes off course immediately notify the others to stop so that they don't run into each other.
Originally Posted By SuperDry oc_dean wrote in another thread, regarding the new Cars E-ticket attraction in DCA: <<< For the moment it's the only "DCA Only" attraction .. till some executive decides to clone it somewhere else .. like the Little Mermaid ride, and World of Color show have. >>> That reminded me that I overheard an Imagineer being asked if Mystic Manor was going to remain a HKDL exclusive attraction, and her reaction was as if she knew something that she wasn't allowed to share, and ended up answering the question by saying that lots of things that start out new eventually find their way into another park. I thought that was a rather odd response - she can't be trying to hide that MM is being considered for Shanghai, could she? That would seem too obvious and too obviously wrong for several reasons to be possible. But what else could it mean? Every other resort already has a Haunted Mansion or equivalent. But then again, MM isn't strictly speaking a HM. It's not ghosts in the traditional sense, but more toward the paranormal (at least as far as I can tell at this point). And it's buried deep inside uncharted jungle. Gee, where else could that fit, especially a place that could use another solid E ticket - DAK perhaps? But also, in the second video at the top of this thread, an Imagineer mentions that Mr Mystic and Mr Hightower at least know of each other, and consider each other "friendly adversaries." Perhaps MM would fit in TDS somewhere? Actually, it might fit perfectly in that unused space in Lost River Delta.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Take for instance the trackless ride system for Mystic Manor - A direct lift from TDL's Pooh attraction. So .. if a specific attraction does not make it from one Disney park to another .. the ride system will. As Test Track's ride system - AKA "Radiator Springs Racers".
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Somebody mentioned in a previous post that there were mock ups of the ride and the layout. Can you please share with us what you saw and what you think the basic story ofthis ride will be? As excited as some get about dancing and colouring in with princesses, I get about theming and layouts of rides and their tracks and enquiring minds want to know!!!
Originally Posted By Roger55 >>Take for instance the trackless ride system for Mystic Manor - A direct lift from TDL's Pooh attraction.<< Talked directly to the imagineer about the ride system. It will not be a direct lift. The psuedo GPS/RF signal triangulation system has been replaced. The vehicle guide system will be done with embedded sensors in the ground. Similarly, the ride system for Radiator Springs Racers will be a "modified" Test Track ride system.
Originally Posted By Mr X For me, the ride system an attraction uses has nothing to do with how "alike" the attractions are. Take for example, Indy and Dinosaur. The systems are identical, and as I understand it even the LAYOUT of the track is the same. But they are obviously different experiences. That's why I'm always a little perplexed when people compare things like Test Track and Journey as "the same" when the experiences are entirely different (sorta like saying McDonalds and Napa Rose are "the same" because they both use tables, both offer various beverages, meats, deserts and potatoes, both accommodate small children with accouterments such as high chairs and bibs, have big dining rooms, kitchens, service personnel, chairs, restrooms etc...)
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< It will not be a direct lift. The psuedo GPS/RF signal triangulation system has been replaced. The vehicle guide system will be done with embedded sensors in the ground. >>> I thought we had established that Aquatopia used the RF triangulation method and HH used the embedded puck method, but I could be mistaken. In any event, the particular navigation should have no effect on the capabilities of the ride vehicles.
Originally Posted By HongKongDisneyLand <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrMdPuNq-x0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...dPuNq-x0</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8EJk2wn8Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...EJk2wn8Y</a>
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: When Jay Rasulo made remarks, several months ago, that he wanted every Disney park to eventually have a Toy Story Mania attraction, my sisters and I assumed it would naturally be a part of Toy Story land. But in looking over the roster of attractions currently planned for the park, we see nothing about Toy Story Mania being included. Therefore, one would think they must be stalling. Mystic Manor should be the First attraction they build--especially if Toy Story Land is going to open up with what appears to be nothing but kiddie type rides.
Originally Posted By jmuboy I would bet that the Toy Story Playlands in HKDL and WD Studios Paris will both "expand" with their own versions of TSMM. They are both opening "light" with just themed "off the shelf rides." Right now I think these Toy Story areas are eing used as cheap "quick filler expansions" When this happens, all 5 Disney Resorts would have a version of TSMM.
