Originally Posted By mawnck For your voting booth convenience, here's a list of how House members voted yesterday on an amendment to nullify the indefinite detention section of the NDAA. (You remember. The New Year's Eve thing.) <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h269" target="_blank">http://www.govtrack.us/congres...012/h269</a> The amendment lost by a vote of 238 to 182. 163 of the supporters were Democrats. Any comments, Donny? Josh? The rest of you Tea Partiers? All set to try and change the subject now? Or are you going to man up and face reality this time? Exactly one party gives a damn about your freedom. And it's the Democrats. The vote is on the record, and does not spin no matter how much BS you shove at it.
Originally Posted By ecdc At least there's this. <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-16/military-detention-law-blocked-by-new-york-judge.html" target="_blank">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...dge.html</a> >>Opponents of a U.S. law they claim may subject them to indefinite military detention for activities including news reporting and political activism persuaded a federal judge to temporarily block the measure.<< Tea baggers love freedom...so long as it fits their very narrow definition of freedom, which mostly includes not taxing them more. But freedom for women, immigrants, gays, or miscellaneous? Not so much.
Originally Posted By ecdc Besides, what do tea partiers and other white males have to fear from indefinite detention? They're the real Americans, so they won't be arrested anyway. (Caveat: It's not true, and what's supposedly makes America better is we care about it even when people who aren't like us get arrested for stuff they didn't do. Or even if they did do it, we say they get a trial and junk.)
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I love hummus, what can I say. >>> You're going to be on a watchlist for sure now.
Originally Posted By 182 I am against any law that would give the military the ability to take an american civilian who is on American soil with out process of law.Once shown to be a terrorist water board the hell out of him.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Shown" to be a terrorist? Without due process? Do you not see the disconnect?
Originally Posted By mawnck HEY! Don't get distracted with the waterboard part. He's changing the subject. It's not relevant to the question at hand. >>I am against any law that would give the military the ability to take an american civilian who is on American soil with out process of law.<< Then you're most likely voting Democrat, right? Which district do you live in? Tell us how your congresscritter voted. The link to the votes is in the first post. If he/she voted "no", then how do you justify continuing to support him/her?
Originally Posted By fkurucz **Once shown to be a terrorist water board the hell out of him.** So much for the constitutional ban on "cruel and unusual punishment". We should just shred that pesky document and get down to business.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney And they say Democrats are stomping all over the Constitution. Many republicans seem unaware of what the Constitution actually says, but instead are determined to protect their own "idea" of the Constitution....and of course their beloved 2nd amendment (of which they have no real understanding).
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Don't get me started about the Second Amendment. How arming militias and defending the country from foreign invaders (read British) gets equated to something like George Zimmerman has a constitutional right arm himself against a teenaged boy is a travesty. And the right says the Constitution shouldn't be a living, breathing document. Mangling the Second Amendment as they do is the very definition of finding whatever meaning you'd like to fit your own agenda.
Originally Posted By mawnck I'm not sure what's worse. Conservatives who use trolling tactics to change the subject, or liberals who fall for it every. Single. Time. Thanks a lot, guys.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Don't worry, 182, duckling, you're not alone and you're not the only one who's against such an unconstitutional law. The corruption in the American government is astounding and there are still many who either don't see it or are part of the evil, themselves. But the truth will eventually prevail.
