Originally Posted By jkayjs Is it just me or have you found that there are posters that you know as soon as you see the name it will be something negative about WDW? And before we get started I am not talking about our dear TD who may very well be the most fair and balanced poster on these boards. These are folks that can find absolutely nothing good about WDW. If they can't post something negative they don't post. I have found that I don't even read anything they post esp if they started the topic. They may have something worth reading but due to the constant negativity I can't bring myself to even bother anymore. The great thing is that eventually everyone gets tired of it and the topic moves to bottom and out of site. Just a thought. I want to hear the bad along with the good it helps me to make informed decisions but I question the motives and judgement of someone that can't seem to find a single redeeming quality in the entire complex. WOW that was a long sentence. I'm climbing down off my soap box now.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 To me there were far more a year or so ago than today. I don't see as much of that now as then, or maybe I am just more used to it ? For those who have been around years now like me, as I right or all ( Splash Mountain) wet ?
Originally Posted By jkayjs Oh I agree vb but there are still a few. I often wonder if they are this way about everything or if it's just WDW they seem to dislike so. You know there are those that are not able to like more than one thing at a time. They consider themselves disloyal. I remember when my cousin was little I was babysitting. I asked him if he wanted a PB&J sandwich. He informed me in his little 4yo voice that "I can't like peanut butter cause I like jelly". I think there are a lot of folks out there that are still 4yo in their thinking. And of course there are the ones that dislike anyone or thing that has more than they do. Boy I'm in a philosophizing mood today. Of course I'm probably all wet.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 >>Oh I agree vb but there are still a few. I often wonder if they are this way about everything or if it's just WDW they seem to dislike so.<< A few don't bother me, trek on over to WE if you think there is a negative mood here.....downright depressing which is why I left it..... there are items I rag on at WDW too; 1/ Pooh Playground 2/ Loss of spirit on Main Street being the main 2 --- I don't think Disney should get a pass on anything because a person is a Disney nut ( and I am certifiable in this area) -- and i do try and give credit where I think things are done well and improvements made...... There is far more good than bad.....but I like many here can't turn a blind eye to a less than stellar effort by management either....they are the gold standard when it comes to parks and should be held to that standard..
Originally Posted By jkayjs Couldn't agree more. We expect this of Disney because originally they expected it of themselves. BTW I have checked out WE. I deal with downers all day at work not interested during my leisure time-LOL.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I really don't see any change in the posts on here. I would have to say that a lot of the topics seem to be negative in nature. So I quess we only have ourselves to blame.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Couldn't agree more. We expect this of Disney because originally they expected it of themselves. BTW I have checked out WE. I deal with downers all day at work not interested during my leisure time-LOL. couldn;t agree more
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I am a little guilty in that I think MGM is very poor (except TOT, GMR, Muppets and LMO), and I think the MK is much weaker than DL or DLP. But I LOVE Epcot and DAK with a passion, and the wonderful hotels, restaurants, golf courses and downtown Disney. I don't want to rush my kids growing up, but I can't wait for a couple of years time when they will be old enough to take!
Originally Posted By mickey_ring Boy, I tellya... you want negative, check out the Yahoo Finance message board for Disney! Woof. nothing but insults from one message poster to another. Never any corporate buzz or anything of importance. True, some (including me) may seem down on WDW, but when it takes a carload of cash to get there, stay there and be in the parks, I expect a decent return on the investment. If I want a lack of maintenance, cheapo rides and general crud, I can travel a half hour east and go to the Jersey shore boardwalk.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Boy, I tellya... you want negative, check out the Yahoo Finance message board for Disney! Woof. < used to be there and the same Yahoo finance board for IBM.....however like you said, maybe 1 post in 20 is actually finance related -- and unlike LP -- they do not monitor language etc --totally out of control
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I am a little guilty in that I think MGM is very poor<< No one should ever feel guilty about expressing an opinion, whether it be negative or not, especially when you pay an admission fee to enjoy your chosen park. However, we all have to keep in mind that going to a theme park for the first time, is like ordering out for pizza. You never know how good it will be until you bite into it.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney ^^Intresting analogy. I found WDW a better place when it was just pepperoni and onion to continue what you started. I try not to be too negative about WDW because there's far too much that's good or great that outweighs the bad. But, for oldtimers like myself who have been there from almost the start, it is difficult to hear people say WDW has never been better, or it's so clean or the merchandise is so wonderful or the parks are open so late (see where I'm going with this). I almost didn't start posting on these boards because I saw how certain people with views similar to mine were often treated and ridiculed. And I have yet to see anyone, with perhaps one exception, with never a good thing to say about WDW.
Originally Posted By kennect I personally have enjoyed every visit I have made to WDW....But I simply can't make a comment on every negative thing said here about the overall resort...Complaints posted here are just a drop in the bucket considering how many people visit the place each year...The place isn't perfect but it still makes for a good time in my book....
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost "I almost didn't start posting on these boards because I saw how certain people with views similar to mine were often treated and ridiculed." You must be kidding! If any group of posters have been ridiculed it would be those with a positive attitude, or in the words of others "Pollyanna's" I think it is fine to discuss things that are wrong but as veteran Disney freaks we do have a responsibility to the new people that have come to the board looking for useful information. If we are nothing but negative we will soon have the parks to ourselves as more and more people rely on computers as their source of information. On one hand this would be good but since the cost to visit would then jump to millions per person to keep the parks empty and "up to our high standards", I don't think I will be able to afford to go anymore. So a little negative and, at least, an equal share of positive is good. I have been going for a long time too. I see things that I dislike (this ones for you vbdad)like 20K replaced by plastic slides and 50 gazillion gift shops with exactly the same things in each one. But I can sit and look at the flowers and topiary for hours and hours. It's where I go to escape and so far it has worked. I am not happy with the change from unique shows such as WoM, Horizons, and 20K to thrill type things. Those dark rides were what separated Disney from the rest of the pack. The newbies either cannot or will not appreciate that kind of entertainment so it will soon be lost forever. That is sad.
Originally Posted By Kimrue I agree that the closing of the "attraction" rides and the mess made with "Journey into imagination" is very upsetting! I LOVED those rides and it's a shame that they are lost forever. My only issue is, it's fine to comment about your disappointments but some tend to go on and on and on and on and on about the SAME THING!!! Yes, WDW IS changing, some things aren't as awesome as they used to be, but we've also gotten some REALLY cool new rides and shows and attractions. Disney will always be Disney, it will go through highs and lows as with anything else. It's great to discuss EVERYTHING on these boards, good and bad. That's what they are here for! But don't let anyone change how YOU feel about something. If you LOVE the idea of the Pooh playground, that's GREAT! What I always say is don't let anyone else's opinion "ruin" Disney for you. It was sad, I saw a young family coming off of "Peter pan" and the little boy was jumping around with a huge smile on his face HE LOVED IT...his mother looked at the other adult they were with and said, "that peter ride was stupid" you should've seen the look on the little boys face!!! He was so disappointed and I'm sure it changed his attitude about the experience.
Originally Posted By XandersMom I do not like negatively either, but I think that personally my frustration with Disney has come from the lack of maintenance in the parks. Also, I really do not like the way that MGM has been allowed to fall into such a state. I was so disappointed when "Hunchback" was closed- I really loved to see that show! I know that the vision of Walt is that the parks never stop changing, and I am fine with that. I just wish that the executives would make sure that Space Mountain was painted nicely, and the buildings on main street look neat. My favorite park since it has opened has been EPCOT, but look at Spaceship Earth! No sponsor! Empty when you exit the ride! I think they have a responsibility to Walt to do a better job than they have been doing.. But I believe all that will be better! I believe that SaveDisney and Roy Disney's plan has made an impact... You can call me a Pollyanna.. because I am! I will rarely complain, I will always be giddy about Disney and I will be the parent hopping off Peter Pan saying "That was so cool! I wish I really could fly!!" Because of that my 11 year old thinks that DISNEYWORLD is better than the beach and cooler than any other vacation destination and she still wants to ride PeterPan AND the Honey Pots without caring who sees her!... lol!
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire I rarely ciomplain too...my biggest pet peeves about walt disney world is not disney itself, but more than likely the people who go there (and stroller drivers!lol)I also wish for Alien Encounter & Mr TOad...but i dont go to Disney and say "oh that needs to be painted, why isnt this trash picked up? the track is too loud,..etc." I also do not being frowned upon because i like the things that are ciomplained about the most. It has happened. Everyones opinion is welcomed, but also needs to be respected, no matter how negative or positive.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Well, I am one of the Pollyannas. I DO THINK WDW is better than it has ever been. Just the same, I really don't find that much negativity on these boards towards WDW. Now DCA is a whole different story. I don't even go to that section much any more. There are about 3 people posting who like the park (I'm one of them), everyone else trashes it mercilessly.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I like DCA because nobody else does. It's so great to go over there for a break from DL, and have plenty of room, with the wider paths and fewer people. Also, you don't feel like you have to run around to see everything. Since there isn't that much to do, it has a much much more laid back feel. I don't think I would go there on its own for a full day, but it is great for a few hours to relax.
