Originally Posted By sjhym333 Disney has announced that they will begin testing a new monorail in the next couple of weeks that will replace the train from the accident. The train should be ready for guests in early fall and while it will be testing without a color stripe, it will receive a peach colored stripe before entering the fleet. All this according to the Orlando Sentinel today.
Originally Posted By Daannzzz ""Disney said the new train is made with a combination of new parts and components recycled from the two trains that collided.""
Originally Posted By avimagine Ok so if it was a car it would be a "rebuild" with a branded title. Will this monorail be as good as the ones already in service? I know using accident parts is common in aeroplanes I guess it's common with Light Rail as well?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: Oh, great! That's all we need! Another monster rail ta scare folks inta next year! I got friends 'n relatives that made the mistake a gittin' on one a those dang things years ago an' none of 'em been seen since!!!
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Lyle Lanley: You know, a town with money's a little like the mule with the spinning wheel. No one knows how he got it and danged if he knows how to use it. Homer: Heh-heh, mule. Lyle Lanley: The name's Lanley, Lyle Lanley. And I come before you good people tonight with an idea. Probably the greatest—Aw, it's not for you. It's more a Shelbyville idea. Mayor Quimby: Now, wait just a minute. We're twice as smart as the people of Shelbyville. Just tell us your idea and we'll vote for it. Lyle Lanley: All right. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll show you my idea. I give you the Springfield Monorail! (everyone gasps) I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map! Well, sir, there's nothin' on earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-car monorail! What'd I say? Ned Flanders: Monorail! Lyle Lanley: What's it called? Patty and Selma: Monorail. Lyle Lanley: That's right! Monorail! Cast: Monorail...monorail...monorail... (continue over the following lyrics) Miss Hoover: I hear those things are awfully loud. Lyle Lanley: It glides as softly as a cloud. Apu: Is there a chance the track could bend? Lyle Lanley: Not on your life, my Hindu friend. Barney Gumble: What about us brain-dead slobs? Lyle Lanley: You'll be given cushy jobs. Grampa Simpson: Were you sent here by the devil? Lyle Lanley: No, good sir, I'm on the level. Chief Wiggum: The ring came off my pudding can. Lyle Lanley; Take my pen knife, my good man. I swear, it's Springfield's only choice! Throw up your hands and raise your voice! All: Monorail... Lyle Lanley: What's it called? Monorail... Once again! Monoraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail! Marge: But Main Street's still all cracked and broken. Bart: Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken! All: Monorail... Monorail... Monoraaaaaaaaail! MONORAIL!! Homer: Mono—D'oh!
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations "" Disney said the new train is made with a combination of new parts and components recycled from the two trains that collided.""<<< There was absolutly no mention of this in the Orlando Sentenial article... FYI.
Originally Posted By -em <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/the-daily-disney/os-disney-new-monorail-20110812,0,980863.story" target="_blank">http://www.orlandosentinel.com...63.story</a> 4th paragraph down.. I'm excited though not excited over the color choice now that Coral is back to Coral I think having Coral and Peach is too color close... I'd prefer Maroon, Lavender, Copper etc.. I hope to see the 'nekid' white train out where I can photograph it -em
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would assume that they were designed for 100-year loadings, like most standard rail-type infrastructure. This means that they were designed to sustain the wind and seismic forces that would be found in a 100-year event (its the same idea as a 100-year flood). Whether or not those forces (or greater ones) are ever actually put upon the beam is a different issue. Depending on what the environmental forces actually are, and how well they're maintained, the beams could last significantly longer. Or significantly shorter. We are nearing the point where beam maintenance does become a bit of a concern, but given that DL still hasn't had to replace any of their beam (which was originally built in 1958/59, extended in 62, and modified in 66 for Pirates and the PeopleMover, and again in 93 for Indy), I would like to think that WDW still has some time left in their beams. Then again, given the harsher weather conditions, and that they used completely different design and construction teams than DL, who knows.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I do know that there has been SOME damage to the beams, from lightening.... About 2 years ago, a area between the TTC and 'Temp was hit and Monorails had to crawl over the cracked part until it was fixed.
Originally Posted By -em They are pressure washing the MK beams right now which in as slow as its happening also is being examined etc... But the beams looks shiny and almost white afterwards -em
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer That's good to hear... the EPCOT beams that were cleaned look great!
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer Speaking of beam maintenance...I read online they are replacing the bus bars on the beams at night, which would also explain the operating time cuts. I also find it interesting that supposedly the EPCOT beamway is in rough shape and is not perfectly straight. They were bulit in-house and not by the Washington company that built the original Seven Seas beamway.
Originally Posted By ChiMike That is correct. From Day 1, to the Mark VI upgrade, to today, it was clear that the EPCOT beam was not built with the same quality. Originally there was some sort of defect on the curve heading onto World Drive from EPCOT. By the Mark VI upgrade, the beam had the 'bumps' that pilots are accustomed to today.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn Usually steel-reinforced concrete structures are designed with "cyclical-loading" in mind - which means every pass of a weighted train counts as one load cycle. Over time, material elasticity causes a beam structure to degrade beyond "safe use". Rain storm cycles contribute to concrete erosion, which are generally included in certain lifespan calculations. Over time, even without seismic loads considered, these beams would seemingly need to be refurbished to continue monorail service. (If that ever comes to be the case - expand.) We're still probably talking 100 years or more, but I wonder if it could be less with all the loading they endure - especially on the MK side.
