Originally Posted By sjhym333 Some new technology to help steer guests into less crowded areas of the park. And everyones favorite MK VP is quoted. Enjoy. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/28/business/media/28disney.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1293487208-SpzDehjMfoA5xLFqSlTq+A" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12...FqSlTq+A</a>
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Please read this article so you will feel the technological happiness the next time you visit.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer They got good ol' Holmes to do a interview!? Hell: Frozen over just in time for 2011!!
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I think thats a great idea. Looking forward to see how it all works out.
Originally Posted By gaston lives Very cool...but I question that the average visitor only gets in 9 rides a day! Come on! Also, the wrist band thingie is interesting, but what if you lose your wristband? somebody else starts buying up the expensive Main Steet USA nostalgia souvenirs and getting them shipped before the wristband can be cancelled... Seems some tweaking is needed there.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Very cool...but I question that the average visitor only gets in 9 rides a day! Come on!" I don't. On a crowded day at DL you'd be lucky to get on that many rides. I just saw a post on another site where almost every attraction at DL on the wait board had at least 45 wait. Space Mountain was listed at 120 minutes!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed. If you go on a busy day, and have a good meal or two, and watch the parade, staking out a place, 9 sounds about right. Pre kids we could do more, or during Extra Magic Hours, but even now we do at most 14.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance It's the parades and firework waiting that kills your ability to do more.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Actually 9 attractions has been the norm since the early 80's. When I worked in the MK during the early 80's closing times were based on anticipated capacity and how long it would take the average guest to enjoy 9 attractions during their day. It was why you used to see the park extend its hours when attendance beat the projected for that day. I dont think they do last minute hour extensions as much anymore.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ They do, funnily enough, but only for MK. I was lucky enough to get one last summer. Would LOVE for some extra EPCOT time... Wow.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I cant remember the last time EPCOT extended their hours at the last minute due to crowds. The formula, though complicated, is rather simple in theory. The average guest should be able to comfortably see 9 attractions, get a meal, see a show and see a parade in X amount of time. As the park get more crowded you have to extend the hours so that they can do that same amount of stuff. When I was in mgmt at the MK I was told that 9 attractions is the number that Disney believes a guest will leave the park feeling satisfied with their experience for the day. Of course if you plan well you can do much more. But Disney looks at the entire experience, not just the number of attractions ridden.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt So then, upping that number to 10 by managing existing resources is somewhat of a major accomplishment. It makes sense.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Could this be part of the excuse for not wanting to add more attractions? Throws off the ratio? If so... weak excuse... Some guests go for a lot more than their "ten".
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Could this be part of the excuse for not wanting to add more attractions? Throws off the ratio? >> I wouldn't say it's an excuse. Perhaps a justification behind the scenes. <<If so... weak excuse... Some guests go for a lot more than their "ten".>> 'A lot"? I'd say if you polled most guests (even regulars) and asked if they felt 10 attractions a day would give them their money's worth BEFORE they enetered/bought tix, I think you'd find about 95% of those folks (across various demos) would all be angry and quite disatisfied with that number. Most people want to do a lot more than 10 attractions in a day. Hell, even at MK (a park I am not a huge fan of) I can stop in for 4-5 hours and do that many.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Would adding more attractions change anything? 9 attractions is 9 attractions no matter how many rides the park has. Historically they would have to extend operating hours in order to give guests the chance to get in more rides in a given day. If anything it sounds to me that it's more like a way to maximize resources within park operating hours to increase guest satisfaction.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Would adding more attractions change anything? 9 attractions is 9 attractions no matter how many rides the park has. Historically they would have to extend operating hours in order to give guests the chance to get in more rides in a given day. If anything it sounds to me that it's more like a way to maximize resources within park operating hours to increase guest satisfaction.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I wouldn't say it's an excuse. Perhaps a justification behind the scenes.<<< That's what I meant. And a poor one, at that. >>>I'd say if you polled most guests (even regulars) and asked if they felt 10 attractions a day would give them their money's worth BEFORE they enetered/bought tix, I think you'd find about 95% of those folks (across various demos) would all be angry and quite disatisfied with that number.<<< Well, yeah, informed guests would. But your average first time guest? That could and would mean they got a lot done. This also might be the "excuse" to book a multiple day trip... Do 10 rides one day, 10 the next... They essentially are counting on you not doing the entire park in one shot, and having to come back. Hmm. Meanwhile, EPCOT Center in the 80's and 90's, a full day has you riding 5 HUGE E Ticket Omnimovers in Future World, Seeing a LONG AA show in WS, and all the D and C Tickets in between. Perhaps this is all part of Disney's plan to condition you into staying onsite, buying multiple day tickets, and having you come back to the same park on multiple days. Sure feels like it...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Would adding more attractions change anything? 9 attractions is 9 attractions no matter how many rides the park has. Historically they would have to extend operating hours in order to give guests the chance to get in more rides in a given day. If anything it sounds to me that it's more like a way to maximize resources within park operating hours to increase guest satisfaction.<<< Yeah, but 9 out of how many? If there is a TON (40? 50? ) of attractions to see, and you only do about a fourth of that... How do you feel? Essentially, you only did Adventureland and Tomorrowland, while leaving the rest of the park untouched.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Yeah, but 9 out of how many? If there is a TON (40? 50? ) of attractions to see, and you only do about a fourth of that... How do you feel? Essentially, you only did Adventureland and Tomorrowland, while leaving the rest of the park untouched." I think the research (done by Disney of course) is that 9 attractions is the threshold were the average guest feels that they got value for the admission paid. Anything above that is icing on the cake. Now let's be honest, a Disney park goer may only hit more around 9 rides in a day, but the reality is that they're probably bypassing plenty of attractions that they simply have little or no interest in. For example, there's an article the OC Register about the massive crowds at DLR this week that has led to the closure of both DL and DCA today. The accompanying video shows DL bursting with people, but guess what? It also shows the Sleeping Beauty Castle walk-through, Lincoln, the Main Street Cinema, and Captain Eo as walk ons. More important than the number of attractions in a park is amount of things a guest is able to accomplish from the list of things that they wanted to do.
