Originally Posted By HMButler79 Even the Sentinel sees the transparency and folly of this... <a href="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-09-21/entertainment/os-mike-thomas-disney-avatar-092211-20110921_1_avatar-sequels-na-vi-pandora" target="_blank">http://articles.orlandosentine...-pandora</a>
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper While I agree with a lot of what he's saying, this has the potential to be a terrific themed land. But he's right. The writing of Avatar was trash. Beautiful art. Trash writing. And he's right saying it isn't a beloved franchise. Popular, yes. Beloved, no.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Here is what I'm guessing will happen with the sequels: They will be written knowing that they need to some how tie them in with theme park attractions and, while story was apparently missed in #1 it will be no better, and perhaps worse, in #2.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I will never understand the huge appeal of the Harry Potter films. The addition at IoA looks amazing, but the films were as dull as dishwater to me. Zzzzz.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I wasn't impressed with them but my son was enamored. It's all in the eye.....
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I loved them in fact I can't think of a movie series that got better as it went along through that many films. Maybe the Debbie Does series.
Originally Posted By Bolna I think the thing with the Harry Potter films is that they aren't meant to be films. They are books and in my opinion most of the time films made from books aren't as good as the original book. Also, the Harry Potter books have always been planned as a series of books for all the years of Harry at Hogwarts. And the grow up with Harry. The Philosopher's Stone is truly a children's book written for 11 year olds. It is still lovely to read in my opinion and has lots of little quirks and fun side stories, but it is not nearly as ambitious as the later books in the series. That's why the first film might not really appeal to grown-ups either. I always was slightly disappointed by all of the Harry Potter films (until the last two) because they had to leave out all the detail which made the books so loveable in my opinion, they were so story based. I understand that it was the time constraint of the film that made them cut so much, but I still missed it. And I think that's the appeal of WoHP as compared to the films: they introduced a lot of those details within the scenery of the films. And because you have time to explore at your own speed, you can really enjoy it, there isn't any story that needs to move along.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I will never understand the huge appeal of the Harry Potter films. >>> Hans, have you read the books?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 You said doesn't appeal to you so this maybe difficult. But the fourth book was out by the time I started the series. I picked up the first book started to read yada yada yada I was finishing the fourth book a week later and angry that I couldn't read the fifth book yet.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey I didn't start the series until the 4th book was out myself. I did the same thing: read the first book and powered through the rest pretty quickly. I waited in line for the midnight releases of 5-7.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'll give the first book a try. I'm not down on HP; I really tried to follow the movies, but to me they are just boring. Not only that, I seriously cannot tell one from the other. They all look exactly the same to me. At least with Star Wars you can tell which episode you're watching within a few minutes.
Originally Posted By hopemax The first book is definitely a kid's book. So keep that in mind as you read. Just about everyone I know, rates the 3rd book as their favorite or 2nd favorite. And I think you can jump from 1 to 3 without being completely lost. And a lot of 3 expands on things that happen in the first chapter of 1. So if after 1, you still don't get it, you might want to try 3.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb BUT if you plan to continue the series, book two sets up several events and concepts that will be important in later books.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm kind of wondering why Disney hasn't announced something at the parks regarding Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. The film was huge and revived a stagnant franchise. Building something major in the parks around the re-imagined version of the story seems logical.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^It's not a franchise. That's why. It's a one and done movie. Iger hates that.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Thanks for the link HMButler. I think the most telling thing is the Halloween costume evidence. My neighborhood has a gazillion kids and Halloween is a big night. I have to buy several bags of candy for 'em. And I have never seen a blue alien kid show up on my door. I didn't even know what this Avatar movie was about until a few days ago when this news hit, but I would have remembered a blue alien in a loincloth carrying a spear. I've never seen a kid wearing an Avatar t-shirt. A quick check of Target.com just revealed only 12 items for sale related to Avatar, mostly DVD or blu-ray sets. A search at Target.com using "Disney Cars" turned up 374 items currently for sale at Target; everything from the toys, clothing, sheet sets, bedroom furniture, Halloween costumes, shower curtains, video games, coloring books, birthday party supplies, DVD's and CD's, etc., etc. The search using "Harry Potter" came up with 281 items, skewing to an older child/teen demographic than the Cars merch does. James Cameron can expect Burbank Suits and WDI Creative Types to be on the set of his second and third sequel daily, and they are likely already weighing in on their thoughts on how he should be framing up the plots for both movies. They all have a lot of work to do to make sure I've got a few dozen blue aliens on my doorstep by Halloween '15.
