Obama: In Black and White

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    Originally Posted By Kimber

    Conflicted? Angered? Confused? Obama?

    <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_03_12/feature.html" target="_blank">http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Wow Kimber, you really seem to have an axe to grind.

    How many slam topics does this make today?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    A bunch. All it really proves is that Kimber knows how to use google.

    Negative articles on Obama on the web? Stop the presses! And many of them from sources (ranging from the American Conservative to a black nationalist website) that presumably Kimber herself would hardly view as great sources under different circumstances.

    Does no one think that if one wanted to, one could come up with many times more negative web articles on Hillary Clinton? I would guess MANY times more. And, undoubtedly, many others on John McCain.

    This Darkbeer-style "post a link" style is not discussion, and in fact is rather juvenile.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Well, Hillary supporters are getting increasingly desperate. She was supposed to be a shoo-in and it just didn't happen for her.

    The wise, statesman-like thing to do would be for her to accept it, bow out gracefully, say she's doing so for "the good of the party."

    But it looks like that isn't going to happen. When one feels "entitled" it isn't easy to accept that there isn't some horrible mistake, some cosmic injustice.

    So what will happen if she keeps it up is that McCain will win in the fall. And the Democrats will have Hillary and Bill to thank for that.
     
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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    Ironically, neither Kimber nor Hillary can come up with an original thought.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    But both would more than likely beat Obama in a General election...
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    That doesn't make sense.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    It does, Obama would not win a General election when Republicans can vote for Democratic candidates... It doesn't matter who he runs against, he only wins in Democratic primaries because Republicans can't vote.

    The states where Republicans can vote for Democrats, surprise...Hillary wins... Coincidence?
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    IMO Hillary Clinton should run as an Independant...
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << The states where Republicans can vote for Democrats, surprise...Hillary wins... >>

    This statement has no basis in fact. Obama has won plenty of states that have open primaries.
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    This statement has no basis in fact. Obama has won plenty of states that have open primaries.<<

    Not recently...Take this past week for example...
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << Obama would not win a General election when Republicans can vote for Democratic candidates... >>

    Republicans candidates are going to have difficulty getting votes from people affiliated with any party if the economy continues to deteriorate. The monthly losses in jobs are accelerating, wages are stagnant, foreclosures are showing no signs of levelling off, etc. The election in November will be a referendum on the economy and Republicans, in general, are extremely vulnerable to backlash due to the economic policies they have championed during the past 7 years.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << Not recently...Take this past week for example... >>

    So, all previous primary voting is invalid based on the results from a handful of states in recent weeks?
     
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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    It is going to depend on what voters' number one concern is. War/Security or Economy?

    Did anyone catch the "girl" from the "Who do you want answering the phone" Clinton ad? She was 8 when that footage was taken and she is now 18. She is an Obama supporter. I just thought that was a cute sidebar to the story.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << It is going to depend on what voters' number one concern is. War/Security or Economy? >>

    I think it's pretty safe to say it's going to be the economy. The big shoes haven't even dropped yet in the continued meltdown of the housing market and lending crisis. There's also the possibility that a very large bank will fail before year's end, and that is going to scare the daylights out of a lot of ordinary people.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    You think Citi?
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    Let's hope not. That would be pretty awful stuff.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Is that the one you were referring to, though SG? I have money there.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    I think the Saudis, Chinese, and U.S. Government will do everything possible to keep Citi afloat. It's likely the next tier of money center banks that are going to have the most trouble -- they won't get nearly as much attention and money thrown their way to save them.
     

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