Originally Posted By cmpaley I heard about this on the radio today and it was actually printed in the GOP-biased Orange County Register: REGISTRATION REQUIRED TO VIEW <a href="http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/atoz/article_1083406.php" target="_blank">http://www.ocregister.com/ocre gister/news/atoz/article_1083406.php</a> REGISTRATION REQUIRED TO VIEW Saturday, April 1, 2006 O.C. voters were duped into GOP registration Petitioners lie, cajole and commit forgery while duping more than 100 O.C. residents into joining the Republican Party. By TONY SAAVEDRA, KIMBERLY KINDY and BRIAN JOSEPH The Orange County Register More than 100 Orange County residents who thought they were simply signing petitions to cure breast cancer, punish child molesters or build schools were duped into registering as Republicans, an Orange County Register investigation found. The ruse took place over several days in December and January at shopping centers throughout Anaheim, Santa Ana, Buena Park, Westminster and Garden Grove, where paid petitioners begged, cajoled, lied and committed forgery to get so-called Republican converts. Petition circulators were paid as much as $7 for each GOP registration. Orange County election officials have received complaints from 167 people who were flipped to the Republican Party without their permission. The Register found the problem was far wider, interviewing 112 others who were not only switched, they were tricked and deceived. Among the victims is a lifelong Democrat who was pressured to fill out forms even though she didn't have her glasses and couldn't see what she was signing. The Register traced the bogus registrations to Christopher Scott Dinoff, who took out 13,000 blank affidavit cards from the Orange County Registrar of Voters Office, records show
Originally Posted By DlandDug The misleading title of this thread is directly related to pretty much the same story, which was discussed here: <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-73504-P-2&Refresh=0401133814" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-73504-P-2&Refresh=0401133814</a> The GOP is NOT using these techniques. Paid petitioners, hired by the GOP are doing this. And when they do, they get fired, by the GOP. The Republican Party is cooperating in exposing and convicting these people. Or, as the Register article goes on to say: >>Dinoff, who was fired from the Orange County Republican registration drive for being too aggressive, declined to comment. It is unlikely that he acted alone; professional petition circulators such as Dinoff usually hire other people to help harvest signatures.<< Later, we read: >>Dinoff was hired by a subcontractor for Bader and Associates, the Newport Beach consultant used by the GOP to conduct the registration drive.<< Bader and Associates was previously suspended from direct registration campaigns for the GOP. So, it sounds like they're trying another tactic-- using petitions. I have long been opposed to campaigns that hire people to register voters or collect names on petitions. There is simply too much temptation to make more money by getting bad signatures. And yes, both parties hire people who do these sorts of things. In the long run, it's the party that gets hurt, especially when it is exposed in this manner.
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Originally Posted By cmpaley I did the "misleading" title on purpose for two reasons. First, to put the story out there. Second, to demonstrate the double standard when it comes to misleading thread titles. Mission accomplished.
Originally Posted By DlandDug There's no double standard on misleading thread titles. Misleading is misleading.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "There's no double standard on misleading thread titles. Misleading is misleading." Exactly. Recently, you claimed not to "understand" people who complained about Darkbeer", one of which is obviously me. "Just don't read it", you said. Well, here you are. Welcome to the club.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>There's no double standard on misleading thread titles. Misleading is misleading.<< Then you should be right there when DB does it complaining about the misleading title. Otherwise, there IS a double standard that is not acknowleged by those who adhere to his politics.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I don't have to be anywhere. I read and respond to very few threads here. What I fail to understand is why people complain about "certain posters," rather than responding to their ideas (as I did here). If the title is misleading, by all means point this out and be prepared to support your opinion. But why waste time complaining about the person who posted it? (Besides-- that's technically a violation of community standards.)
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Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Dug, what you did here is EXACTLY what myself and others do re: Darkbeer. With him, he's been doing it so long there's no point in "debating" him because one, he doesn't respond, and two, his title bears little resemblance to what his linked article actually says. As I've pointed out repeatedly, he gets called on this on every site he posts on, no matter what the topic. It's his M.O. for whatever reason. And by doing so much over time, he's made himself the topic, not us.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I have no interest in discussing the personalities of the individuals who post here. I read and respond to very few threads. If a title is misleading, and you are responding to that, fine. But I have no interest in engaging in personality based debate (ie: using terms like "Darkbeer Syndrome," which we saw in post #3). I am not saying it doesn't happen-- but I do make an effort to avoid it. Now, as to the actual topic at hand...
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Nice condescending try, but whether you name him or not, you've registered the complaint we have.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I refuse to condescend to engaging in personal attacks based on my perception of someone's personality. Can we get back on topic?
