Originally Posted By DisneybyMark DbM has it from reliable sources that our friends at Imagineering are finishing up concept and show design for an Oz land (or area) and Oz attraction based on the movie Oz the Great and Powerful. More here: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.disneybymark.com/2013/07/17/oz-land-attraction-planned-disneyland/">http://www.disneybymark.com/20...neyland/</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Didn't see the film, but the consensus from friends who did said it sucked. I like the Oz stories though, so I wouldn't mind seeing something major based on them come to Disneyland.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Disney's been considering Oz-based concepts for the park since the very beginning, so it make sense that WDI was looking on a concept based on the recent film. However, given it's lukewarm reception, it seems like they would shy away from anything too permanent based on the film. Then again, given Disney's recent track record with supposed blockbusters, lukewarm is probably about as good as they're going to get I also find the attraction mix (2 C's and an E) a little on the optimistic side for anything in DL. That would make it the biggest addition since ToonTown (Roger Rabbit, Jolly Trolley, Gadget's Go Coaster), and that opening was spread over 2 years (despite Roger being ready for opening day). That just seems like a lot of stuff to fit in that one little corner of the park; just look at how much space the 3 (admitteldy spread out) attractions for Carsland took
Originally Posted By TP2000 "The final attraction mix will be decided shortly, and DbM expects that the announcement about Oz land will be made at D23." <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.disneybymark.com/2013/07/17/oz-land-attraction-planned-disneyland/">http://www.disneybymark.com/20...neyland/</a> Well, then. We won't have long to wait to hear more about this Oz Land concept coming to Disneyland. All will be revealed at D23 Expo on August 9th!
Originally Posted By tashajilek Ok, so we can expect to see a Star Wars land, MILF in TL and Monstropolis? Yea, I don't think so.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Us cauldron girls are so happy to hear that Disneyland is developing an Oz attraction!! We thought Oz the Great & Powerful was WONDERFUL. Nothing will ever compete with the original Wizard of Oz movie by M-G-M. But we saw Oz the Great & Powerful as a compliment to the M-G-M Oz movie. I think some people just saw what they wanted to see instead of what was really there for Oz the Great & Powerful. It is one of the best fantasy movies to come from the Disney Studios since Rapunzel--which I refuse to call 'tangled'.
Originally Posted By leemac I wonder what former imagineer leaks this nugget. Baxter was the sole driver behind the proposed Oz project ever since the studio first became interested in developing a movie. I'd have to check my notes but I think the movie was first proposed back in '06/'07. He is an Oz obsessive and was convinced that there was appetite for the characters to live in Disneyland. Worth adding that he also worked up ideas for The Lone Ranger for Big Thunder Ranch too. And Princess and the Frog before that. Disneyland is close to capacity so management are becoming more inclined to see capex devoted to the park but failed movie franchises don't hold much water with Iger and therefore with any other exec.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I'd hardly call Oz the Great and Powerful a failuer, leemac. It did quite well.
Originally Posted By leemac <<ORDDU: I'd hardly call Oz the Great and Powerful a failuer, leemac. It did quite well.>> Sorry witches but the facts suggest otherwise. Movie cost $250m plus $150m in marketing and distribution. That's $400m. The movie hasn't even reached $500m globally - so that will be a $150m writedown on its theatrical release.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I think some people just saw what they wanted to see instead of what was really there for Oz the Great & Powerful.<< Wanted to see a good Oz movie. Didn't.
Originally Posted By dagobert Why is there a writedown for Oz? As you said, Oz made $500 Mio worldwide, while the cost was $400 Mio including marketing and distribution. For me that would make $100 Mio on the plus side.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I actually thought the movie wasn't too bad either, but what characters would they have in Oz land?There really isn't any memorable or interesting characters to be used from the new film. If I were to see a new land I would expect to see Dorothy, the tin man, the Scarecrow etc.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Why is there a writedown for Oz? As you said, Oz made $500 Mio worldwide" I think he said that Oz *hasn't* made $500 million worldwide.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Why is there a writedown for Oz? As you said, Oz made $500 Mio worldwide, while the cost was $400 Mio including marketing and distribution. For me that would make $100 Mio on the plus side.>> The studio takes less than 50% of the total gross - rest goes to the theater owners. So a $500m worldwide gross only translates into $250m or so for the studio. Most studios have to give over between 50-55% of the gross to US theater owners. They typically make a big more in international markets. Movies are negotiated on a movie-by-movie and theater-by-theater basis. Disney's negotiating power - MARVEL aside - has dwindled as their slate has shrunk and as box office success has evaporated.
Originally Posted By disneyfreaksk I liked the China Doll character and the flying imps. Different. I think I would by-pass the OZ land if I were in DL.
