Originally Posted By SuperDry <a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/3669828.html" target="_blank">http://www.chron.com/disp/stor y.mpl/ap/nation/3669828.html</a> "[Robertson] remains important to the evangelical movement ... but he needs to stop damaging it with his words." "He is in a very visible leadership position and comments such as recent ones related to Mr. Sharon and so many others are misinformed and presumptuous and border on arrogance" "[Robertson said] 'I have seen an intensity of attack against me that is unparalleled in the 40-some years of the broadcast.'" Gee, I wonder if saying that one foreign leader should be assassinated and that another's stroke was a result of divine retribution has anything to do with the intensity of his critics?
Originally Posted By mele Robertson says so many stupid things that it's hard to keep track. He spends so much time and effort attacking others and yet feels he's the one under attack. Funny in a sad sort of way.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< He spends so much time and effort attacking others and yet feels he's the one under attack. >>> There's a lot of that going around.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh So an AP writer found a couple of people who criticized some of Robertson's remarks, and built a story around it. I don't really care about Robertson one way or another, but I'm skeptical that the criticisms of "Fellow conservative religious leaders" are as great as the writer may them out to be.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>When people attack Robertson, he wins sympathy for appearing to be an underdog, Britt said. "It reinforces an image of Christianity as a persecuted religion, a religion that is being hounded by the secularists out of the public square, rather than a dominant and hegemonic force," Britt said.<< Excellent point. I'm sure whatever backlash Robertson does get pay$ off for him among his most ardent followers.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe He will be judged soon enough and is he in for a rude awakening! I'm implying that I know what God is thinking and I guess we all think we do as that is the foundation of that thing called faith, so I do admit that>thinking that I have a clue as to how the Almighty thinks (a clue) I said
Originally Posted By cape cod joe He's just ONE step better than my favorite anti-Christ Jimmy Swaggart! How about Jim Baker? The list goes on in ALL religions but at least they don't want to kill EVERYONE who doesn't agree like the Muslims (a lot of Muslims)
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It was a man--such as Pat Roberts--who helped inspire a similar topic here in World Events--about how mixing religion and politics is such a bad idea. Osama Bin Laden also helps to remind us how dangerous it is to bring your religion into the secular world.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <So an AP writer found a couple of people who criticized some of Robertson's remarks, and built a story around it. I don't really care about Robertson one way or another, but I'm skeptical that the criticisms of "Fellow conservative religious leaders" are as great as the writer may them out to be.> I agree, actually. I think Robertson's views are closer to those of a lot of religious conservatives than they'd like to let on - they just know enough not to air their wackier thoughts publicly.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I tend to agree. But it really doesn't matter which particular religion you happen to choose for yourself. Anyone is susceptible to becoming so fanatical that they are blinded to how they go about imposing their beliefs on others--to the point where they can be lead to the belief that 'wiping out' the non-believers is the only solution. We say let God do the 'wiping out'--if that's even got to happen. Whenever mortals decide to play god like that, they end up breaking one of the Ten Commandments.
Originally Posted By woody >I'm skeptical that the criticisms of "Fellow conservative religious leaders" are as great as the writer may them out to be.> I agree for different reasons than Dabob2. Pat Robertson's views no longer hold as much weight as they used to. While his comments are consistent with mainstream conservative Christian doctrine, they are simply wrong in its application to modern news. The debate over "God's plan" cannot be settled by any one pastor or religious organization. In the religious realm, Pat will continue to have a major influence, but his influence in politics have diminished. Since Pat's organization is involved with both, that's the end result of his outrageous comments.
Originally Posted By gadzuux I'm not so sure. Robertson's influence in the "religious realm" crosses over into politics as long as he can control the votes of his followers - and he still has lots of followers who will vote for whoever he tells them.
Originally Posted By woody Robertson's influence with public policy and politicians have diminished. This doesn't mean it's gone, but he has damaged his credibility. Telling people who to vote for is anyone's right. Robertson can do a lot, but his impact has given way to Dr. Dobson, the new king-maker. The sands have shifted.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "The sands have shifted." And that sand is in some cat's litterbox.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Dr. Dobson, the new king-maker<< ...who uses his influence to bemoan SpongeBob SquarePants. Hey, he was ahead of the curve among people being outraged by cartoons.
