Originally Posted By skinnerbox Robertson also met with Mitt Romney last Saturday before Mitt's appearance at the NASCAR race. I'm deeply troubled by any Presidential candidate meeting up with a d-bag like Robertson who makes statements such as these: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/pat-robertson-become-muslim-to-beat-your-wife_n_1873142.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...142.html</a> <> Pat Robertson, Televangelist, Encourages Man To Become Muslim So He Can Beat His Wife Once again, Pat Robertson has said something ridiculously offensive and cruel. Past targets have included gays, feminists and pagans, atheists, people with Alzheimer's, adoptive parents, Haitians and people who don't pray enough. This time, the televangelist focused his ire on wives who fail to properly obey their husbands. On Monday's broadcast of Robertson's television show "The 700 Club," he answered a question from a viewer named Michael about how to repair his marriage to a woman who "has no respect for me as the head of the house." Robertson's response: "Well, you could become a Muslim and you could beat her." Bizarrely, this comment elicited laughter from Robertson's co-host, Terry Meeuwsen. Unfortunately, Robertson didn't stop there. "I don’t think we condone wife-beating these days but something has got to be done to make her." He also called the woman a "rebellious child" who doesn't want to "submit to any authority." However, since the Scripture doesn't allow for divorce, Robertson urged the husband to "move to Saudi Arabia," where, ostensibly, beating the woman would be permissible. WATCH THE VIDEO ABOVE. According to Right Wing Watch, the very same clip was edited when posted on the Christian Broadcast Network's website in order to remove the offensive rhetoric. And if you're tempted to write off Robertson as just a fringe character, know this: He spent last weekend hanging out with Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, NBC News reported. <> "I don’t think we condone wife-beating these days but something has got to be done to make her." Why would any Christian give any validity to this nonsense? Here's a hint, Pat, on where you find this stuff: OLD TESTAMENT OLD TESTAMENT OLD TESTAMENT Unless you're actually Jewish Orthodox, get your nose out of the Old Testament and back in the New Testament where it should stay! I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't condone "making wives respect" their husbands through the use of violence. Just sayin'.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Wow. I keep thinking I've heard it all, but this crusty old fool just keeps lowering the bar. Sickening that people keep mailing him money and that politicians would give him the time of day.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Like with anyone who has a history of outrageous and likely offensive statements(see Limbaugh, Rush) I'm still amazed that people still get offended and shocked at what Robertson says. You know it's coming, you know he's not going to change his beliefs, you know that any clear thinking adult is going to condemn statements like this. It's the equivalent of a toddler trying to get attention by being naughty. You just don't acknowledge it.
Originally Posted By 182 Do I really have to list people on Obama's friends list and their shocking history ????? Really ????? I will give you my first one Robert Kennedy
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Do I really have to list people on Obama's friends list and their shocking history ????? Really ?????<< Yes, that way I can go through and debunk each and every one of them. That you got from Glenn Beck.
Originally Posted By ecdc That said, Romney's not responsible for Robertson. But why is he being seen with him? Because there's a large segment of the voting Republican party that Romney needs to pander to, and this is how he does it. Donny, can you give us an equivalent example of people that Obama must be seen with in order to pander to Democrats? Has he campaigned with, say, Richard Dawkins or Bill Maher recently? Or Michael Moore? (None of whom say anything as offensive as Pat Robertson.)
Originally Posted By TomSawyer It's sad that Romney has to keep pandering to the Tea Party to get them to vote for him. Shouldn't they be behind him already?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Donny... Before you make yet another predictable slam against Obama, perhaps you should double check your list. Obama was only 6 years old when Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles. And Donny, since you're a self-proclaimed Christian, please site specific scripture in the NEW TESTAMENT where Jesus told his followers that beating women to make them respect the authority of men was permissible. We'll wait.
Originally Posted By ecdc Presumably Donny means RFK, Jr. But maybe not. I know RFK, Jr. is a vaccine denialist, which makes him an idiot on that topic, but I'm not aware of any other controversies around him.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Shouldn't they be behind him already?>> TS, I think Team Romney fears that teabaggers and ultra conservative Republicans will leave the President field unchecked on their ballots. That's the only justification I can see for Romney's visit with Robertson.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer There was a Reuters poll released recently that said that 38% of southern Whites making less than $55000 per year were twice as likely not to vote for someone because they were Mormon than if they were black. That's why he's still campaigning for the vote that he should have sewn up in Tampa.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I'm not aware of any other controversies around him.>> I am. I listen to Ring of Fire every Saturday afternoon. I'm a big fan of Mike Papantonio, Sam Seder, and Bobby Jr. As a proponent of Big Oil/Gas/Coal, Donny might be referring to this: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/21/rfk-jr-masesy-coal-company_n_973628.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...628.html</a> <> Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Targets Massey Coal Company James Gerken First Posted: 09/21/2011 3:37 pm Updated: 11/21/2011 5:12 am A June 12, 2008 general view shows a coal mine on top of Kayford Mountain in West Virginia. The mountain top has been demolished during the process to extract coal. Mountaintop removal mining (MTR), referred to in coal the industry as mountaintop mining/valley fills is surface mining involving extreme change to the summit or summit ridge of a mountain. It is used mainly with coal mining in the Appalachian Mountains, in the eastern US. Should a corporation with a track record of frequent legal violations be allowed to operate? Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Free Speech For People say no. With over 35,000 petition signatures, the group, also led by Appalachian Voices and the Rainforest Action Network, is calling on the state of Delaware to revoke the corporate charter of the Appalachian coal mining company Massey Energy. Speaking Monday in a press conference call, Kennedy described the campaign, urging Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden to decharter Massey Energy, explaining the company's history. He said, "It's our position that when a company abuses its charter, that the attorney general has the responsibility in the state where it's chartered, to revoke that charter." During the call, Kennedy showed no sympathy for Massey, saying, “This is a company that at every level of its functioning, in every aspect of its culture, is offensive to the public interest.” He revealed that between 2006 and 2010, "Massey, by its own admissions, violated the Clean Water Act 63,000 times." Kennedy said that during a televised debate last year, former Massey CEO Don Blankenship admitted that Massey could not operate profitably in the marketplace without breaking the law. Massey Energy, which was bought by competitor Alpha Natural resources for $7.1 billion earlier this year, is also known for its violations of labor and mining safety laws. A report commissioned by the governor of West Virginia found that Massey was responsible for the 2010 Upper Big Branch mine disaster that left 29 miners dead. The report concluded: Ultimately, the responsibility for the explosion at the Upper Big Branch mine lies with the management of Massey Energy. The company broke faith with its workers by frequently and knowingly violating the law and blatantly disregarding known safety practices while creating a public perception that its operations exceeded industry safety standards. Calling the corporation a “criminal enterprise,” Kennedy also explained that Massey has led the drive for mountaintop removal, a form of coal mining which has, “over the past decade, cut down 500 of the largest mountains in West Virginia.” HuffPost blogger Jeff Biggers writes, "Far from simply being an environmental issue, mountaintop removal is killing American residents." A peer-reviewed study published in July linked 60,000 cases of cancer in Appalachia directly to mountaintop removal. Another study, published in June, "found 'significantly higher' rates of birth defects in babies born near mountaintop removal mining sites than those in non-mining areas," reports HuffPost's Travis Donovan. During the press conference call, Kennedy said Massey is a company that "cannot function ... without subverting democracy." Citing Blankenship's political ties, Kennedy explained that the former-CEO has a long record of campaign contributions to congressional and judicial candidates who are pro-business and support the coal industry. Kennedy added, "The Supreme Court of the United States, which is probably the most corporate friendly Supreme Court that we've had in this nation, at least since the Gilded Age, rebuked West Virginia's Supreme Court for its ties to the coal industry and to Massey in particular." Click here for more information about the campaign to revoke Massey's charter. Be sure to check out the film "The Last Mountain," making the case against mountaintop removal mining, in theaters across the country. <> Of course, it's probably more likely that Donny got his Kennedy brothers mixed up. He's probably referring to Teddy and Chappaquiddick.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>There was a Reuters poll released recently that said that 38% of southern Whites making less than $55000 per year were twice as likely not to vote for someone because they were Mormon than if they were black.<< I think many Americans are unaware of how strong the anti Mormon bias is among Protestant Fundamentalists.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I cited that wrong 38% would probably not vote for a Mormon. 20% would probably not vote for a black.
